Attacking 6:5 for fun (and profit?)

[jopke]

I was thinking it would be kind of fun to try attacking a 6:5 game. I'd be playing a small unit and doing it more for the challenge than anything.

Any advice? I use TKO, which I know isn't ideal for single deck, but oh well...

Can a very aggressive spread beat it? Spreading from 1 to 2x40 would crush, right?

How much does the lower BJ payoff devalue aces? Sequencing is still worthwhile, right?

I play primarily shoe games and 2D where I can get good pen. I've only played single deck when a casino was running a deal where they payed 2-1 on naturals during certain time periods, which applied to the 6:5 games as well. (That was a ton of fun, I flat be 3x$100 and made a killing.)

[White Guy]

I have some advice:

Don't Do It.

[zengrifter]

Originally Posted by jopke

Can a very aggressive spread beat it? Spreading from 1 to 2x40 would crush, right?

Yes.

How much does the lower BJ payoff devalue aces? Sequencing is still worthwhile, right?

Yes, with the big spread indicated.

Keep us appraised of your results, just for fun. zg

[SWFL Blackjack]

Originally Posted by jopke

I was thinking it would be kind of fun to try attacking a 6:5 game. I'd be playing a small unit and doing it more for the challenge than anything.

Any advice? I use TKO, which I know isn't ideal for single deck, but oh well...

Can a very aggressive spread beat it? Spreading from 1 to 2x40 would crush, right?

How much does the lower BJ payoff devalue aces? Sequencing is still worthwhile, right?

I play primarily shoe games and 2D where I can get good pen. I've only played single deck when a casino was running a deal where they payed 2-1 on naturals during certain time periods, which applied to the 6:5 games as well. (That was a ton of fun, I flat be 3x$100 and made a killing.)

Have you tried to sim this game? I would be curious of the EV of such a game.

[zengrifter]

Originally Posted by SWFL Blackjack

Have you tried to sim this game? I would be curious of the EV of such a game.

A little over 1% (not sim, just guess) zg

[tensplitter]

6:5 single deck only turns profitable at TC +4. You'd need a huge spread. It would be like minimum bet for TC <4 and max bet for TC >4.

[zengrifter]

Originally Posted by tensplitter

6:5 single deck only turns profitable at TC +4. You'd need a huge spread. It would be like minimum bet for TC <4 and max bet for TC >4.

Ya. zg

[moo321]

Originally Posted by tensplitter

6:5 single deck only turns profitable at TC +4. You'd need a huge spread. It would be like minimum bet for TC <4 and max bet for TC >4.

Wait, no. You would still want to spread your bets. Just play mins and then start ramping up above +4. The only reason to "max bet" is for cover purposes.

Also, it's single deck. Very volatile TC's, not like shoes where you're only hitting +5 1% of the time with a 1.5 deck cut.

[neversplit5s]

If you're trying to decide which system to use if you're going to try and beat a 6:5 SD game, if I'm correct the BC vs. PE balace tips even more to the latter with 6:5 (compared to 3:2 SD) since blackjacks have less of an effect but the importance of playing decisions are the same as in any single-deck game.

[Cardcounter]

If you are playing a 6:5 game during a promotion that pays you 2 to 1 for blackjack you are no longer playing a 6:5 game. Meaning you bet $10 and Win $20 instead of $12 it is good game during the promotion but once the promotion ends go back to the regular blackjack tables that pay 3:2 or $15 for a $10 bet. In fact it is smart to play the 6:5 tables during a promotional period paying 2:1 on blackjack because the other rules are quit good and you will have 1.5% advantage of the top there is no crazy spread necessary during this promotion.