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zengrifter · #1 May 23rd, 2006, 01:54 PM

Col. Jesse Marcel Jr., On & Off the Record

RNU EXCLUSIVE

By Thomas Horn
Senior RNU News Reporter
Monday, May 22, 2006

RNU.com – (Raiders News Update) – A new book by Col. Jesse Marcel Jr. - Roswell: It Really Happened - claims that the famous Roswell UFO event actually occurred, including the recovery of an extraterrestrial craft. Col. Marcel's father, Maj. Jesse Marcel Sr. was the lead military investigator into the crash of 1947 and is finally vindicated according to this book.

Without a doubt the 1947 Roswell, N.M. event is the paramount story of western extraterrestrial folklore. Some think whatever really happened there will never be known. The U.S. government says it was a simple case of misidentification. But as most people know, this wasn't the military's first position.

On July 8th, 1947 the Roswell Daily Record carried the RAAF release as its headline front page story:

RAAF Captures Flying Saucer On Ranch in Roswell Region. The intelligence office of the 509th Bombardment group at Roswell Army Field announced at noon today, that the field has come into possession of a flying saucer.

...continued here - http://www.raidersnewsupdate.com/marcel.htm

zengrifter · #2 May 23rd, 2006, 09:52 PM

Mystery: Pilot Crashes While Pursuing UFO

May 23, 2006 04:15 PM
WFIE Daily Headlines | Reporter: Drew Speier

It's a mystery dating back to 1947. A UFO allegedly crashed in Roswell, New Mexico. That story is well documented, but equally puzzling was this mystery regarding a UFO in the skies above Kentucky just a few months after the Roswell incident.

In 1956, a government film addressed this case, a case that'll never be solved because Captain Thomas Mantell from Simpson County, Kentucky, an experienced pilot and World WarII Ace, took the answer to his grave.

It made headlines across the country. January 7th, 1948, 1:30 pm, Kentucky State Police receive reports of a UFO near Godman Air Force Base. The unidentified object is described as a big, bright, shiny star.

Four F-51 Mustangs, on their way to Standiford Air Force Base in Kentucky, are contacted by the tower. They're ordered to investigate a white object, some 300 feet in diameter. One plane returns for fuel and oxygen, the other three approached the object.

Pilot Thomas Mantell says he sees it ahead of him. The planes climbed to 22,000 feet, too high for WWII fighters without oxygen. Two returned to the base, leaving Captain Mantell in sole pursuit of the unknown.

Minutes later, Mantell with another transmission states, "Mantell to tower: it appears to be a metallic object, and it's of tremendous size."

Captain Mantell kept climbing, most likely past 30,000 feet. Radio contact was lost.

Minutes later, less than two hours from the initial sightings, Mantell's F-51 crashed on a farm in Franklin, Kentucky. His watch stopped at 3:16 p.m. His body, still strapped in his plane. By all accounts, he passed out from a lack of oxygen, forcing his plane to plunge to the ground.

Today, a historical marker sits near the site where Mantell's plane went down in Franklin, Kentucky. In fact, it went down on a farm nearby Joe Phillips farm. His son, a school child then, was one of the first on the scene.

William Phillips Jr. recalls, "We heard this real loud boom, you know. It actually shook the house. In fact, the best I remember it was two of them, like an explosion."

Phillips Jr. was six years old and home sick with his younger sister when the crash occurred.

He says, "We ran to the window, and just happened to pick the right window, and see it hit the ground, as it hit the ground."

The news of the incident immediately made headlines. Newspapers reported Mantell had been shot down by a magnetic ray from a flying saucer. The story took on a life of its own.

Mantell was the first person ever to die while pursuing an unidentified flying object.

The military's response - it was most likely a weather balloon.

Phillips Jr. argues, "I can't see that a balloon could move and out run a P-51. The P-51 was the fastest thing the military virtually had in '47."

It's a story that, almost 60 years later, is still talked about in Franklin, Kentucky where Mantell was born and, oddly enough, died, just a few miles from the Simpson County tourism building where he's honored.

Dan Ware, Simpson County Tourism, says, "There are many UFO buffs who stop by to ask and see what we've got, and want to know as much as they can about the story. It continues to fascinate people, even after 50 years."

To this day, people still wonder what Captain Mantell was chasing.

SystemsTrader · #3 May 24th, 2006, 09:58 AM

If Roswell really happened the military would let everyone know about it so that they and NASA could get an unlimited budget for space exploration.

zengrifter · #4 May 24th, 2006, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SystemsTrader

If Roswell really happened the military would let everyone know about it so that they and NASA could get an unlimited budget for space exploration.

Space travel is much further along than the public is allowed to know! zg
http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/showthread.php?t=1870

ScottH · #5 May 24th, 2006, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zengrifter

Space travel is much further along than the public is allowed to know! zg
http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/showthread.php?t=1870

Apparently not, since you "know".

yellowjacket · #6 May 24th, 2006, 10:52 PM

LOL^^^^

Heres my opinion on UFOs and space travel, feel free to throw it right back as I throw it out: People come up with these stories because, well, they have to. Think about it, how else are you going to get the hell out of here for a little while and chill out?