"Bush worshippers are un-American!"

[zengrifter]

Yellowjacket - this means YOU! zg

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Bush worshippers are the real un-Americans

By Charles M. Ashley
Online Journal Contributing Writer
May 19, 2006,

I get more than a little pissed off when some yahoo Bush worshipper calls me un-American because I don’t support the Bush administration or the one-party Republican government now in power. I find it bitterly ironic that such folks hear the march of freedom where I hear the strident goose-stepping of a fascism that has already caused untold destruction and threatens to be a great deal more destructive than Nazi Germany or Imperial Japan. Who in hell do these numbskulls think they’re kidding?

The yahoo Bush worshippers (YBWs) are the real un-Americans. Although they heavily lard their speech with the words “democracy,” “liberty,” and “freedom”; the YBWs do not understand the meaning of these words. After they utter them (usually accompanied, a la Sinclair Lewis, with the Stars and Stripes (or maybe the Stars and Bars) waving in one hand and a prominently displayed gilt Bible in the other), in the very next breath, they support the Bush administration’s domestic spying program, arguing -- if one can call such parrot-screed an argument -- that they have “nothing to hide” and so it’s quite all right with them if the government listens in on them.

These people call themselves patriots. They need to do some historical research. At the time of the American Revolution, people with ideas like those of the YBWs were called Tories, not Patriots. The Patriots fought against King George, not for him.

I’ve got a little secret for these halfwits. The terms “democracy,” “liberty” and “freedom” have a great deal to do with another little concept called “privacy.” Without privacy, it is simply impossible to have democracy. In the nosey, back-biting atmosphere of incipient fascism, where neighbors keep up with the Joneses by informing on neighbors, where an alphabet soup of NSAs, DIAs, CIAs, FBIs, and OSPs permeates every supermarket and coffee shop, one cannot have the kind of independent thought necessary for healthy democracy.

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[zengrifter]

Calling Yellowjacket! zg

[ScottH]

Since when is supporting your country's ELECTED President "un-American"?

[zengrifter]

Originally Posted by ScottH

Since when is supporting your country's ELECTED President "un-American"?

When he's a lying criminal busy sacking the Constitution and he came into office as a result of election fraud. Besides, the issue is not the man its his policies and corrupt administration.

In 1974 was it unAmerican to support Nixon as he brought about a Constitutional crisis? YES. zg

[Cass]

Originally Posted by zengrifter

Yellowjacket - this means YOU! zg

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Bush worshippers are the real un-Americans

By Charles M. Ashley
Online Journal Contributing Writer
May 19, 2006,

I get more than a little pissed off when some yahoo Bush worshipper calls me un-American because I don’t support the Bush administration or the one-party Republican government now in power. I find it bitterly ironic that such folks hear the march of freedom where I hear the strident goose-stepping of a fascism that has already caused untold destruction and threatens to be a great deal more destructive than Nazi Germany or Imperial Japan. Who in hell do these numbskulls think they’re kidding?

The yahoo Bush worshippers (YBWs) are the real un-Americans. Although they heavily lard their speech with the words “democracy,” “liberty,” and “freedom”; the YBWs do not understand the meaning of these words. After they utter them (usually accompanied, a la Sinclair Lewis, with the Stars and Stripes (or maybe the Stars and Bars) waving in one hand and a prominently displayed gilt Bible in the other), in the very next breath, they support the Bush administration’s domestic spying program, arguing -- if one can call such parrot-screed an argument -- that they have “nothing to hide” and so it’s quite all right with them if the government listens in on them.

These people call themselves patriots. They need to do some historical research. At the time of the American Revolution, people with ideas like those of the YBWs were called Tories, not Patriots. The Patriots fought against King George, not for him.

I’ve got a little secret for these halfwits. The terms “democracy,” “liberty” and “freedom” have a great deal to do with another little concept called “privacy.” Without privacy, it is simply impossible to have democracy. In the nosey, back-biting atmosphere of incipient fascism, where neighbors keep up with the Joneses by informing on neighbors, where an alphabet soup of NSAs, DIAs, CIAs, FBIs, and OSPs permeates every supermarket and coffee shop, one cannot have the kind of independent thought necessary for healthy democracy.

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I'm willing to give up some of my privacies to help prevent terrorism. keeping watch on terrorists/possible terrorists is a good thing. Think if they could have prevented 9/11 by having something like this before. Or the OK city bombing? You cant compare king george's rule to Bush's presidentcy thats just stupid. If everyone was behind the war in Iraq we would probably be out of there by now. Or if we didnt have to pussyfoot around over there it would be a little different story. I guess we will find out if islam is actually a religion of peace or not. The "extremists" are the true followers. Bring back the crusades!
Exerpts from the koran
1.
4:89 They long that ye should disbelieve even as they disbelieve, that ye may be upon a level (with them). So choose not friends from them till they forsake their homes in the way of Allah; if they turn
back (to enmity) then take them and kill them wherever ye find them, and choose no friend nor helper from among them,

2.
4:101 And when ye go forth in the land, it is no sin for you to curtail (your) worship if ye fear that those who disbelieve may attack you. In truth the disbelievers are an open enemy to you.

3.
9:123 O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you,, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him).

4.
4:56 Lo! Those who disbelieve Our revelations, We shall expose them to the Fire. As often as their skins are consumed We shall exchange them for fresh skins that they may taste the torment. Lo! Allah is ever Mighty, Wise.

5.
8:67 It is not for any prophet to have captives until he hath made slaughter in the land. Ye desire the lure of this world and Allah desireth (for you) the Hereafter, and Allah is Mighty, Wise.

6.
28:86 Thou hadst no hope that the Scripture would be inspired in thee; but it is a mercy from thy Lord, so never be a helper to the disbelievers.

7.
33:1 O Prophet! Keep thy duty to Allah and obey not the disbelievers and the hypocrites. Lo! Allah is Knower, Wise.

[zengrifter]

I think that you'll find similary violent passages in the Christian Bible, and judging by results its not entirely clear that Christianity is a religion of peace either.

But the subject of terrorism is another matter altogether. It is NOT CLEAR the nature of the terrorist acts we have seen of late in the US, UK, and Spain, to cite a few. It is NOT CLEAR what exactly happened on 911, BUT it is clear that whatever happened it was not what the 911 Commission reported. zg

[Cass]

Originally Posted by zengrifter

I think that you'll find similary violent passages in the Christian Bible, and judging by results its not entirely clear that Christianity is a religion of peace either.

But the subject of terrorism is another matter altogether. It is NOT CLEAR the nature of the terrorist acts we have seen of late in the US, UK, and Spain, to cite a few. It is NOT CLEAR what exactly happened on 911, BUT it is clear that whatever happened it was not what the 911 Commission reported. zg

I will agree with that, but you dont have Christian extremists going around carbombing people do we? To me it is simple they hate us, our way of life and they want us to die for that. It is all laid out in the Koran for us. What we know from what the media tells us is not entirely the truth of 911. They know a lot more than what they have told us, but what would be the advantage in exposing this? I think the government covers up a lot of things. It just "better that way". We dont know the whole truth... Moon landing, jkf assassination, roswell who knows.

[yellowjacket]

Zen, who is your favorite President of all time? Give me a name and I can play devil's advocate and critique him as well as you can Bush. There are always going to be tradeoffs and for me, the strengths of Bush's administration outweigh it's weaknesses by a longshot. IMHO the strenghts are in no particular order: Interest rates, real estate market, unemployment, no attacks since 9/11, removal of Sadaam and focus on combating terrorism.. If the argument in the article above would somehow qualify as the tradeoff for Bush's strengths, then I would take that tradeoff any day of the week. I also noticed the author above had to resort to name calling to make his article worthy of publishing on even the most obscure of interweb sites..

So give me your favorite President I am dying to know!

[zengrifter]

George Washington. zg

[yellowjacket]

Hah I figured you would be fond of any President that grew his own marijuana Just from my memory alone I would say he not only owned the chronic fields but also the slaves he used to harvest them.. He would whip them with his powdered wig and bite them with wooden teeth if they disobeyed..

Furthermore, of course everybody loved Washington, even me, because he never chose sides.. He had no political party affiliation and was so revered because of his military accomplishments during the American Revolution.. which is funny too because he was the one who started the whole Revolution in the first place.. remember he built an army in support of the British Empire during the French and Indian War and then when the British won he was granted all the land to grow his weed and all the slaves he could ever imagine to whip around and treat worse than animals.. Then when poor George got taxed on his land he was given for free in the first place by the British he raised another army to start the American Revolution! When that succeded he was of course rewareded by being our first President which gave him the power to summon taxes so extreme he had to implement the Militia Law of 1792 combat the full scale riots his taxes caused.. which pale in comparison to the British taxes we all had rebelled against..

To summarize, he fought for the british, got rewarded by the british, fought against the british, got rewarded by the americans, fought against americans, beat slaves, grew fields of weed, wore wooden teeth and a bad wig and dont even get me started on his religious beliefs!!! If anything he is a war hero!