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Old January 27th, 2011, 11:41 AM
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In reality, very few casino personnel know **** about game protection. The sharp ones may know to watch for bet variation, but I've only seen a handful of these. And holecarding, forget about it. Most of them wouldn't know a holecarder unless he showed up wearing a sandwich board sign that said "I Play Holecards".

How would you feel if you were making a living off of some opportunity, and suddenly it got posted, and died?
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Old January 27th, 2011, 08:40 PM
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How would you feel if you were making a living off of some opportunity, and suddenly it got posted, and died?
Is that how real pros feel about James Grosjean and his BC book? zg
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Old January 27th, 2011, 09:20 PM
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I think we are making a false distinction here. Many are claiming that posting about this stuff will somehow alert casino staff and ruin opportunites. I would argue that it is very unlikely to happen that way. Plus, there are posts about this topic on the BC site. If this stuff shouldn't be talked about publicly, why is it there?

If this thread is going to continue and people truly believe mentioning holecarding along with this game is a terrible thing to do, we should at least edit the thread to make it more vague. Maybe it should be deleted. Each time the thread gets a new post we run the SLIGHT risk of tipping off a pit boss that this is possible, without the benefit to the community of explaining how to do this properly.
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Old January 27th, 2011, 11:48 PM
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Maybe it should be deleted. Each time the thread gets a new post we run the SLIGHT risk of tipping off a pit boss that this is possible, without the benefit to the community of explaining how to do this properly.
But From business perspective, these kind of threads helps in getting more hits, hype to the site. This is coming at the cost of regular APs' income..
I don't see any other reason of making this thread sticky, assuming OP also want to delete the thread?
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Old January 27th, 2011, 11:51 PM
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But From business perspective, these kind of threads helps in getting more hits, hype to the site. This is coming at the cost of regular APs' income.. I don't see any other reason of making this thread sticky, assuming OP also want to delete the thread?
Nonsense. Tell the author to remove his website and Exhibit CAA discussion board. zg
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Is that how real pros feel about James Grosjean and his BC book? zg
A lot of people are mad at him for revealing certain things. Some carny games have gotten much harder to beat.
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Old January 29th, 2011, 04:56 PM
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A lot of people are mad at him for revealing certain things. Some carny games have gotten much harder to beat.
Again - WHY did he do it!?!? Not for the money (he says).
Maybe a bid for author immortality?

WHY WHY WHY, Herr Grosjean? zg
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Again - WHY did he do it!?!? Not for the money (he says).
Maybe a bid for author immortality?

WHY WHY WHY, Herr Grosjean? zg
Most people regret posting sensitive info. Doyle Brunson regrets publishing Super system.
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Old January 30th, 2011, 02:00 PM
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Most people regret posting sensitive info. Doyle Brunson regrets publishing Super system.
So, having regretted the first one, he published SuperSys II? zg

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Old January 31st, 2011, 01:45 PM
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Let me give an example. About 5-6 years ago, there were these online casino bonuses that were beatable. Huge +EV, lots to go around. There was a site, bonuswhores.com (still in existence for poker bonuses) which was a hub for info. Now, you had guys on the site who were legit players. They knew how to beat the bonuses, figured out the strategies, and then talked about it in public. They would even post info about the specific bonuses which were available.

Everything was fine until the "gnomes" came along. These were guys who would sign up literally dozens or even hundreds of times with fake names. All of a sudden, the casinos, instead of losing to the maybe 1% of their players that were AP's started having 10-50% of their players be AP's. Even before UIGEA, a lot of the good bonuses were getting killed. At one point Golden Palace had a bonus worth several thousand dollars a month. Of course, it got killed by the gnomes.

Maybe 10 of these "gnome" farms killed a lot of the good bonuses for everyone. What will happen to an opportunity for live casino play when some clown gets ahold of it? Like the idiots I saw in Vegas a few weeks ago blatantly running a wheelchair play. They had no signals, they were just speaking a foreign language about how to play their hands. Those idiots could easilly burn out a game that a smart player could have pulled thousands from.

In fact, idiots could burn out that game at a whole network of casinos, like H a r r a h's. Literally dozens of casinos could be lost just because of these idiots.


On the other hand, I was a member of the inner circle at another bonus site, onlineblackjackguide. We talked about how to beat bonuses, specific bonuses, and even some advanced stuff that remains secret today. Because I knew it was a handful of trustworthy players, I was ok with talking about stuff, and so were the others. Loose lips sink ships.

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