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February 4th, 2011, 09:56 AM
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Lucky Ladies roundup
OK, the question often comes up- "How do I play Lucky Ladies?"
Here are the strike points and their typical yields for a bunch of different counts and situations. Both the LL9 and LL10 paytables.
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February 4th, 2011, 10:34 AM
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9 meaning it pays 9 to 1 on a suited 20?
I have always waited until a KO +8 for this bet, since KO is inflated a bit above its pivot point +4. I have never seen an analysis based on pen before. Generally where I've seen it, the pen is 1.5 or greater. I am surprised at the difference between LL9 and LL10.
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February 4th, 2011, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Automatic Monkey
OK, the question often comes up- "How do I play Lucky Ladies?"
Here are the strike points and their typical yields for a bunch of different counts and situations. Both the LL9 and LL10 paytables.
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Where is my AO2?
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February 4th, 2011, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by BJgenius007
Where is my AO2?
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Come on, I can't do them all! I picked a bunch of commonly-used counts, plus a few that are especially good for Lucky Ladies. Guessing that you would treat AO2 like you would treat Zen.
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February 4th, 2011, 01:06 PM
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Great chart, AM!
lacking ONE thing - the value attributed to Qh for side count. zg
Last edited by zengrifter; February 4th, 2011 at 01:09 PM.
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February 4th, 2011, 01:07 PM
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Where is my AO2?
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Where is belongs - relegated to the scrap heap of obsolete systems. zg
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February 4th, 2011, 01:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Automatic Monkey
Guessing that you would treat AO2 like you would treat Zen.
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Yes, but with inverse +EV attributed to Ace-lean. zg
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February 4th, 2011, 01:11 PM
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Thanks for the chart
Is it possible for you to post the Effect of Qh?
What count is required ignoring the Qh-Qh 200:1 and higher payout for double deck? (atleast for hi-lo)
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February 4th, 2011, 01:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zengrifter
Yes, but with inverse +EV attributed to Ace-lean. zg
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The effect of the ace vs. 9 bias you can see in the difference between High-Low and Revere Plus-Minus. It's hardly anything, and it doesn't affect the strike point. The ace and 9 are still negative cards relative to the LL bet.
Counting the Qh is easy and relevant in the DD game, where if either Qh comes out you tweak your strike point higher, but I don't think it buys you much in the shoe game. I'll have to investigate that.
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February 4th, 2011, 01:18 PM
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What exactly is the LL10 table?
I've seen LL9 as 4-9-19-125-1000, is that correct?
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