::I'm starting to wonder if CC is worth it in my span of playing time. Dealing out of a 6 deck shoe with nearly 2 deck penetration cut out, just is not giving me much advantage even using red 7 . Played for 2 hrs each session is about all I can stand . I stayed about even , cashing in $50 to &100 winning each session. The count never got in my favor enough to matter one way or the other. I stayed with 2 hands at $10 each & up $15 on the winning H . I won! not because of CC ,but just used BS & money management . Just want to say YES! one can win in the short term using only BS . DICE!! for the love of GOD why do I still love that game. Took my puny winnings over to the crap table & lost it in 10 minutes . WHY , WHY ? I did win some of it back before checking out. Wife hit a $5500 jack pot on the penny machine. I told her not to play those dam things LOL POGO:laugh::laugh: