Effect on certain rules

In Michigan we have a large number of charity poker rooms that offer Blackjack, and I am trying to determine what the is the total effect of the following rules. (I know it is a bad game, just trying to determine how bad).

Non-suited black-jacks pay even money.
Suited black jacks are paid 3-2
All player blackjacks are paid before dealer looks at hole card. (pushes are winners).

I know the rules are bad, I am just curious about the numbers to discuss with others. Other charity rooms in the area have even worse rules, this room handles pushes, splits, DD as a Detroit Casion would. (Except player blackjack is always paid).

If was going to play I would go to the Downtown Detroit casinos.

I don't play downtown, but I know those who do. The word is that nothing is playable unless you can put up $25-50 minimums.

However, if you play at some of the other MI casinos, you will be able to get an excellent game for $3-5 minimums.

SP

Thanks for the info. Just curious as to what you define as "playable" and what the outstate casinos offer for rules.

You can get $10 tables off peak times downtown that are 3-2 games. Which is what I look at as the first and most important qualifier to a game.

I can't go into specifics about the game that I play, which is indeed playable. Perhaps PM me, and I might be able to talk about it if it is all right with the others that introduced me to the game.

Just because BJ pays 3:2 does not make it playable. I imagine you are probably playing 8 deck games that are H17, NS and cut off 2 decks or more if you are playing downtown for those limits.

I'd consider 6D, 4.5/6 Pen or better, RSPA, H17, and LS playable.

Note that there is more than a 2-fold SCORE difference between the two described games.

SP

SP, nothing against Shanko, but he has not been around here nearly long enough to share in game info.


CP