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Old March 25th, 2011, 08:27 PM
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Default Casinos should be better regulated to protect the public

Why should players be the ones on the defensive. It is the casinos that should be so. They are the ones who establish a business to take the public's money; therefore, they should be the ones who are made to tow the line. They can call it entertainment all they want, but when a player becomes addicted, or when a player loses money he could ill afford to lose, it is no longer entertaining.

Casino gambling is a despicable enterprise the way it is currently administered. The true odds should be displayed side by side with the paid odds on each and every casino bet. Of course, this is not done, because the plain and simple truth would dissuade millions from ever placing a bet.

Also, it would serve to provide pressure on the casinos not to greedily gouge their customers with payoffs that amount to highway robbery. It might also create an atmosphere of competition, with customers able to easily compare advantages of playing in one place over another.

We are required by law to have nutritional information on food products for the protection of consumers; why not require casinos to provide risk information on games-- and I don't just mean a general disclaimer-- I mean detailed information? Why is one's physical health a matter of government concern, but a person's financial health is not?

Also, short of cheating, no game offered by a casino should limit the ways players can play it. Card counting should not only be legal, but it should be illegal to treat a card counter in any way different from any other player-- no back offs, no half shoes, no flat betting.

Even the use of devices like computers should not be banned. Only when a device is used for cheating, should it be disallowed. It should be the burden of the casino to find ways of offering its games that cannot be beaten by computers or other devices. But devices that are used to cheat, such as, a device that could x-ray playing cards, or a device that could cause a slot machine to pay off, would be clearly cheating devices, and be subject to the usual criminal prosecution. And no more forbidding players from using cell phones at the table; if it's really a high speed camera that can read hole cards, let the casino find a way to detect the cheating behavior and take criminal action. And no more forbidding players from using i-pods and other listening devices at the table. Put the burden on the casino for demonstrating that it is really a secret cheating device. Of course, all such devices should be subject to random inspection by the casino-- after all, fair's fair.

Am I off the wall in my proposal? I know it might spell the end to many AP techniques, but then, it would save countless numbers of heartbreaking losses among the millions and millions of ploppies who frequent the casinos. It seems like it would be in the public interest to clean up the evil empire, but then, there goes all those card counting opportunities and so forth-- or do they? Would the casino still invite AP's to beat them, even when the tables are turned? Or maybe, would there be any casinos left if required to do business in an upstanding manner?

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Old March 25th, 2011, 08:38 PM
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Old March 25th, 2011, 08:52 PM
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I don't agree with the premise of regulation as posited by Brother Aslan, BUT I do feel that some FTC-type regulatory action is long overdue - truth in advertising type stuff ... like when Stations Casinos post billboards all around town to trump their players' club with slogans like "The more you play the more you get!" > Truthfully, the more you play the LESS you get! zg
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Old March 25th, 2011, 09:17 PM
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I don't agree with the premise of regulation as posited by Brother Aslan, BUT I do feel that some FTC-type regulatory action is long overdue - truth in advertising type stuff ... like when Stations Casinos post billboards all around town to trump their players' club with slogans like "The more you play the more you get!" > Truthfully, the more you play the LESS you get! zg
But you do like it when the government requires nutritional information on foods, do you not? How is that different? Not to be argumentative, but I was hoping to stimulate discussion, not acceptance or rejection. It's a straw man; feel free to tear it apart.
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If you play a game with the odds in your favor, someone with a gambling problem would become rich.
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I thought you folks were all for smaller gubermint and less regulation. Whatever happened to letting the free market decide things? I guess thats only for stuff that doesn't affect youse.
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The Evil Empire hands out a brochure with fairly accurate House
Advantages listed; although I have not seen same in quite a while.
They used to have a stack of them at the so-called Credit Office.

Actually, it would have no effect on revenue generatino.

Ploppies will buy BJ insurance, buy KENO tickets, play the Big Wheel,
bet on the TIE at baccarat, and place "hop bets" at the Craps Table,
and play roulette.

Have you ever tried to tell someone what the vigorish is on a lottery ticket ?

The "utility function" is the deciding factor with lottery tickets
and other bets with low returns & high payouts. not the House Advantage.
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If you play a game with the odds in your favor, someone with a gambling problem would become rich.
Many people with gambling problems already become rich winning the Lotto, the Megamillions and the Powerball, and these are state sponsored activities.
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I thought you folks were all for smaller gubermint and less regulation. Whatever happened to letting the free market decide things? I guess thats only for stuff that doesn't affect youse.
Good point, but people who are for smaller government still support a modicum of regulation-- the Sherman-Anti-Trust legislation and the reduction of stock purchase leveraging from 90% to 50% are examples (I think). But you're right, the small government people would say, scrap the Departments of Energy, Education, and HHS, the Federal Reserve, as well as, major portions of Agriculture, FCC, and Treasury, for starters.
 

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