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June 9th, 2011, 12:14 PM
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Use your chips to remember them.
white = club
red = diamond
green = heart
black = spade
then just have stacks of chips in front of you to represent the cards.
As far as the big bet jump goes.. I've never done ace tracking but here's a good way to go about it:
Buy in for around the size that you want your big bet to be, then bet minimum until it's time to make that bet, then stack up all the chips you got then say "all in" and push em all into the circle. Ploppies do stupid **** like that all the time
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June 9th, 2011, 12:45 PM
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I know of no one who counts while ace-tracking.
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I do, not difficult, but I only use ONE keycard (so far) at 2D.
So I don't get the full value available (yet). Also, I constrain my Ace bets to not exceed my counting max bet. My approach is "sequencing on training wheels. zg
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June 9th, 2011, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by aslan
Believe me, with KO it can be done, but it's also good to have an easy system to record key cards, using just what you have with you-- fingers, legs, chips, pocket change, cigarettes, lighter, drink, bs card, keys, etc., etc.
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Under Nevada law any of those items COULD be construed as a criminal volation of the anti-DEVICE law. zg
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June 9th, 2011, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by zengrifter
I do, not difficult, but I only use ONE keycard (so far) at 2D.
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What about using ace tracking to make otherwise-marginal locations worthy of a visit?
I'm thinking of those locales with a 6-8 casinos in a 40-mile radius, 4 with decent penetration, the rest hand shuffled but with ghastly penetration.
- Count the games with good penetration
- Ace-sequence the remainder
This gives me a much larger number of opportunities, allowing shorter sessions. Plus, the crappy-penetration joints probably aren't watching their games too carefully.
Win!
The only flaw is that I have no sequence skill yet, but I can fix that.
Last edited by Friendo; June 9th, 2011 at 03:02 PM.
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June 9th, 2011, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by zengrifter
Under Nevada law any of those items COULD be construed as a criminal volation of the anti-DEVICE law. zg
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Just use chips. Even the craziest casino wouldn't try to claim you were using a device by stacking your chips a certain way.
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June 9th, 2011, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by zengrifter
Under Nevada law any of those items COULD be construed as a criminal volation of the anti-DEVICE law. zg
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Possibly, but I think that's a stretch, especially fingers and legs, and also the chips that the house gives you.
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June 11th, 2011, 12:59 PM
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You could remember the number by turning the chip in a certain direction.
3 hearts - red chip pointing to 3 oclock
8 clubs - green chip pointing to 8 oclock
ten hearts - two red chips stacked turned to noon
jack clubs - two green chips stacked turned to 3 oclock
queen spades - two white chips stacked turned to 6 oclock
king diamonds - two $0.50 chips (whatever color the casino uses) stacked turned to 9 oclock
You could easily remember every single sequence card in a 2D this way.
Have you're hand constantly playing with chips in order to obscure them from the camera and others.
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June 12th, 2011, 09:28 PM
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It's not so bad if you can make a memory system that represents each card as a distinct object, and then combine a few of them into a scene. E.g. a king hitting an 8-ball with a shovel can represent one sequence (king of diamonds, 8 of clubs, jack of spades).
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Originally Posted by pit15
Just use chips. Even the craziest casino wouldn't try to claim you were using a device by stacking your chips a certain way.
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Unfortunately I have anecdotal evidence that says otherwise.
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June 26th, 2011, 04:34 PM
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You could have a partner and have him just min flat bet while memorizing key cards, while you just count. When he spots something and signals you, you can do the big betting.
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June 26th, 2011, 07:26 PM
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Anyone memorized a sequence card, largely not caring what the rank and suit of that card is?
Don't mind me, its quite possible I'm sitting here drinking heavily.
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