Beating match the dealer?

[Octoberatom]

Originally Posted by halbruno

Well, that is what I am interested in finding out! What are your views? It just seems that by playing heads up the frequency of matching the dealer is greater than if played with a full table for example. So, in a heads up situation, perhaps there is a greater chance of profiting on this side bet?

Since you're playing heads up, you will win the match the dealer bet more often, but you'll also be playing that bet much more than if the table was full. The percentage of times that you win with this bet will still be the same, which is -EV.

[halbruno]

Thanks Octobertom for seeing my point and giving me a definite reply. I posted this situation to get some opinions and instead I got criticism! I am trying to improve my game. Thanks again.

[MangoJ]

If this is the concept how you plan to "improve your game" - asking questions and blame the others if the answer doesn't fit in your little universe - then you will really need good luck on your gambling career.

[mikeinjersey]

I'm with Bruno..

It's all people do here on these forums is criticize you if the odds are against your favor. They just look at stats and nothing else.

There must be 0% creative thinking here.

Many people continue to win successfully (like myself) by varying their bets and choosing to bet higher at the right time. (without counting)

If the mods , along with the long term members of this forum just continue to downgrade posts like ours...then they should at-least think about giving us our own forum . With no 'piss-on' , 'degrading' criticism allowed.

Just let us talk our sh*t , without interruption. Even the 'voo-doo' section won't qualify...as people get 'pissed on' daily there as well.

Everybody thinks their Elitists here.. (i'm right and you're wrong) The nerd days are over guys, how bout waking up for a change..

[Gamblor]

Originally Posted by mikeinjersey

I'm with Bruno..

It's all people do here on these forums is criticize you if the odds are against your favor. They just look at stats and nothing else.

There must be 0% creative thinking here.

Many people continue to win successfully (like myself) by varying their bets and choosing to bet higher at the right time. (without counting)

If the mods , along with the long term members of this forum just continue to downgrade posts like ours...then they should at-least think about giving us our own forum . With no 'piss-on' , 'degrading' criticism allowed.

Just let us talk our sh*t , without interruption. Even the 'voo-doo' section won't qualify...as people get 'pissed on' daily there as well.

Everybody thinks their Elitists here.. (i'm right and you're wrong) The nerd days are over guys, how bout waking up for a change..

I am all for creativity, in fact think its crucial for an APs long term success.

However, what these "nerds" do is provide strong evidence for their "crazy ideas", e.g., card counting works, with mathematics and computer simulations.

You provide 0 evidence to support your positions. What, you won? Over how many hours? 1, 10, 100, 1000, 10000?

[shadroch]

In theory, you should bet more on winning hands and less on losing hands.
Thats pretty simple. Its the execution thats a ball buster.

[paddywhack]

Originally Posted by shadroch

In theory, you should bet more on winning hands and less on losing hands.
Thats pretty simple. Its the execution thats a ball buster.

Aw, come on Shad, quit sugar-coating it.

[Most Interesting Man]

I agree with ECBJ. This game is "beatable" but not worth it. TC needs to go way off the scales and then the edge is razor thin to that compared to what you get on the main bet. I ran the sim month or two ago. Is there some other counting method more appropriate? Maybe but you'll probably have to keep multiple counts and still not get a strong advantage.

Now there is a non counting way to get +EV from MTD but you'll need a willing victim...

[moo321]

Originally Posted by mikeinjersey

I'm with Bruno..

It's all people do here on these forums is criticize you if the odds are against your favor. They just look at stats and nothing else.

There must be 0% creative thinking here.

Many people continue to win successfully (like myself) by varying their bets and choosing to bet higher at the right time. (without counting)

If the mods , along with the long term members of this forum just continue to downgrade posts like ours...then they should at-least think about giving us our own forum . With no 'piss-on' , 'degrading' criticism allowed.

Just let us talk our sh*t , without interruption. Even the 'voo-doo' section won't qualify...as people get 'pissed on' daily there as well.

Everybody thinks their Elitists here.. (i'm right and you're wrong) The nerd days are over guys, how bout waking up for a change..

You're on the wrong forum for this type of thinking. You can think whatever you want, but don't expect sympathy from a card-counting forum. I wouldn't go to a left-wing forum and talk about my love for George W. Bush and expect a warm response.

[moo321]

Does anyone have the actual indexes? For BJ and SP?