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Old July 18th, 2011, 02:37 PM
Jet Jet is offline
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Default I am going out on a limb here so give it to me straight.

If it is illegal for Casino personnel to scan or copy your ID for their own specific purpose other than verifying your ID for CTR formalities or age check then the way SIN and Griffin goes about retrieving your personal info - which is straight from the casino floor personnel themselves - is totally against the law.

Shouldn't that say they have no legal grounds to use our personal info from our ID's for future reference to help aid in targeting potential card counting or A. play from individuals of interest?

And even still, cheaters or other types of in house violators - though in the wrong - still have a right to withhold their ID from being copied/published and used for the casino and surveillance agencies own agendas since they are not the law, right? And only actual officers of the law can apprehend your ID for further scrutiny, I would think.

In summation, the only time that we are, mandatory by law, suppose to show our ID's is for age verification at the door and CTR filings. And there is no legal instances whatsoever when a Casino personnel is allowed to copy, publish, and dispense our personnel info - if we refuse to allow them to - to agencies (and themselves) that are not really christened by state or federal law to obtained our personal info for their own agenda to start.

I am really going out on a limb here, so please your input would be great.
Old July 18th, 2011, 04:55 PM
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How are you going out on a limb?
Old July 18th, 2011, 04:59 PM
Jet Jet is offline
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Originally Posted by shadroch View Post
How are you going out on a limb?
Well for one, I am still kinda wet behind the ears and whatever I say may come out ridiculously way off or plain obvious already. Regardless, I just wanted input.
Old July 18th, 2011, 07:00 PM
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There is nothing illegal about scanning/copying/retaining ID information. They just can't require it except in specific circumstances. If you voluntarily hand over your ID they can do as they wish.
Old July 19th, 2011, 08:13 AM
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It's only illegal if you they scan a Department of Defense Common Access Card, and I doubt anybody can or will enforce that law.

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