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June 19th, 2006, 04:58 PM
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KO insurance question
In the KO system you are to place an insurance bet when your count is at +3 or higher, but the book does not mention how many units you are meant to put on the insurance line. My guess would be the same amount as your current bet.
And just in general, what is the limit of a insurance wager? Is it totally seperate from your regular play, therefore just subject to the table limit or is it limited to the amount of your original bet for that hand?
And yes, Zengrifter, I do know perfect BS.......
surrender 16v. 9, 10, A
" 15v. 10
double 9v. 3-6
10v 2-9
11v everything but A
soft 13,14v 5-6
15,16v 4-6
17,18v 3-6 so on and so forth
Last edited by Eternal; June 20th, 2006 at 09:32 AM.
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June 19th, 2006, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Eternal
In the KO system you are to place an insurance bet when your count is at +3 or higher, but the book does not mention how many units you are meant to put on the insurance line. My guess would be the same amount as your current bet.
And just in general, what is the limit of a insurance wager? Is it totally seperate from your regular play, therefore just subject to the table limit or is it limited to the amount of your original bet for that hand?
And yes, Zengrifter, I do know perfect BS.......
surrender 16v. 9, 10, A
" 15v. 10
double 9v. 3-6
10v 2-9
11v everything but A
soft 13,14v 5-6
15,16v 4-6
16,17v 3-6 so on and so forth 
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You can bet up to 1/2 of your original bet on insurance. So let's say you have a 50 dollar bet out, if the count is +3 or higher you would place a 25 dollar bet on the insurance line. Since insurance is profitable at +3 and higher you would always bet the maximum amount, or 1/2 of the original wager. If you win the insurance bet you would push on the hand since insurance pays 2 to 1.
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June 19th, 2006, 05:07 PM
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Insurance is a side bet that is 1/2 of your original bet...or less if you elect to not take "full insurance." It is paid 2:1. At the table, if you take full insurance on a $10 original bet when the dealer shows an Ace, then you would place $5 in the insurance area. If the dealer does not have a face card down, you lose the $5 Insurance bet and continue playing your hand as normal for the $10 original bet. If however, the dealer does have a Blackjack, then the following happens. The dealer will first collect your original bet as if you'd lost it...which you did! He will then place $10 beside your $5 Insurance bet. The net result is that you "push" the hand.
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Originally Posted by Eternal
In the KO system you are to place an insurance bet when your count is at +3 or higher, but the book does not mention how many units you are meant to put on the insurance line. My guess would be the same amount as your current bet.
And just in general, what is the limit of a insurance wager? Is it totally seperate from your regular play, therefore just subject to the table limit or is it limited to the amount of your original bet for that hand?
And yes, Zengrifter, I do know perfect BS.......
surrender 16v. 9, 10, A
" 15v. 10
double 9v. 3-6
10v 2-9
11v everything but A
soft 13,14v 5-6
15,16v 4-6
16,17v 3-6 so on and so forth 
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June 19th, 2006, 05:54 PM
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I have a student in a south-seas island nation who tells me that at his casino - which deals 90% pene of 8D - you may bet up to the house limit on insurance regardless of the initial bet, which is great! zg
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June 20th, 2006, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by zengrifter
I have a student in a south-seas island nation who tells me that at his casino - which deals 90% pene of 8D - you may bet up to the house limit on insurance regardless of the initial bet, which is great! zg
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Why can't I ever stumble across games like that! The closest to anything like that I've seen was the side bet at 4-Q and the 20's bet at Plaza (now gone!)
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