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Old September 11th, 2011, 05:58 PM
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Last night I palyed at Foxwoods with the new card shuffling machines. What a mistake.

After each hand the dealer was putting the cards back in the machine instead of putting them in the discard holder.

I complained but was told it doesnt matter. I assumed the discarded cards get shuffled into the cards. Which makes the play unfair. Is that the way it works or am I wrong?

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Old September 11th, 2011, 06:18 PM
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You played with csm, continuous shuffle machine, which its different than asm automatic shuffle machine.....
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Old September 11th, 2011, 06:32 PM
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So... I am right?
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Old September 11th, 2011, 06:38 PM
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Fair is not a word that casino really understands....
But the short answer is very difficult to beat if not impossible....
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Old September 12th, 2011, 10:37 AM
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Last night I palyed at Foxwoods with the new card shuffling machines. What a mistake.

After each hand the dealer was putting the cards back in the machine instead of putting them in the discard holder.

I complained but was told it doesnt matter. I assumed the discarded cards get shuffled into the cards. Which makes the play unfair. Is that the way it works or am I wrong?

Thanks.

Obviously you are not counting, so it shouldn't matter how the cards are delivered. What does matter is the increase in hands per hour. The house edge will grind you down faster with these machines. Hand shuffled tables are still plentiful in each casino at Foxwoods, so you should have no trouble finding them.

If you absolutely must play at a table outfitted with a shuffling machine, make sure it's a full table to keep the hands per hour as low as possible.
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Old November 21st, 2011, 09:17 AM
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Default CSMs are gone

Over the weekend Foxwoods removed the 6 CSMs from pit 2 and replaced 4 of them with ASMs. The pit now has 4 ASMs and 6 hand shuffled games.

The story from the pit is that they were jamming, but I've never heard anything to support that. I'd like to think that the boycott worked,but both reasons are probably off the mark.

The good news is there are now no CSMs on blackjack tables at Foxwoods or MGM Grand.
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Old November 21st, 2011, 09:23 AM
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Over the weekend Foxwoods removed the 6 CSMs from pit 2 and replaced 4 of them with ASMs. The pit now has 4 ASMs and 6 hand shuffled games.

The story from the pit is that they were jamming, but I've never heard anything to support that. I'd like to think that the boycott worked,but both reasons are probably off the mark.

The good news is there are now no CSMs on blackjack tables at Foxwoods or MGM Grand.
A move in the right direction. They are few and far between.
 

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