KO Blackjack review from Amazon

[JAXBOY]

I was checking out the reviews of KO Blackjack and ran into this review.

Can someone please counter what this reviewer is saying.

Anyways I already ordered the book and Casino Verite. I'll wait till the BJnet guys are back to get Smartcards.

By A Kittle

Let's assume your playing in a 6-deck game. This system has you start your running count at -20, with -4 or higher as the "key" (The point at which you bet high). Using the KO method, after all of the decks are counted through the count will be +4. Does anyone else see the flaw here? Let's say you have a count of -3. This system tells you to bet high (Even suggesting 10 betting units!). But think about it, if a deck completely counted through will end up at +4, then there's a better chance that you'll be drawing low cards, meaning the dealer actually has the advantage. Put simply, if you use this system YOU WILL BE BETTING HIGH WHEN THE DEALER HAS THE ADVANTAGE. If I'm wrong then correct me, please. But I believe this is a very faulty system. If you win anything using it, count it off as luck. Eventually it will ruin you.

[ScottH]

Originally Posted by JAXBOY

I was checking out the reviews of KO Blackjack and ran into this review.

Can someone please counter what this reviewer is saying.

Anyways I already ordered the book and Casino Verite. I'll wait till the BJnet guys are back to get Smartcards.

By A Kittle

Let's assume your playing in a 6-deck game. This system has you start your running count at -20, with -4 or higher as the "key" (The point at which you bet high). Using the KO method, after all of the decks are counted through the count will be +4. Does anyone else see the flaw here? Let's say you have a count of -3. This system tells you to bet high (Even suggesting 10 betting units!). But think about it, if a deck completely counted through will end up at +4, then there's a better chance that you'll be drawing low cards, meaning the dealer actually has the advantage. Put simply, if you use this system YOU WILL BE BETTING HIGH WHEN THE DEALER HAS THE ADVANTAGE. If I'm wrong then correct me, please. But I believe this is a very faulty system. If you win anything using it, count it off as luck. Eventually it will ruin you.

At the end of ONE deck you will be at +4, so at the end of the 6 deck shoe you should be at +24, assuming you start counting from 0.

It's not a faulty system, just a faulty review! Get the book and you'll see.

[ScottH]

Originally Posted by JAXBOY

Using the KO method, after all of the decks are counted through the count will be +4. Does anyone else see the flaw here? Let's say you have a count of -3. This system tells you to bet high (Even suggesting 10 betting units!). But think about it, if a deck completely counted through will end up at +4, then there's a better chance that you'll be drawing low cards, meaning the dealer actually has the advantage. Put simply, if you use this system YOU WILL BE BETTING HIGH WHEN THE DEALER HAS THE ADVANTAGE. If I'm wrong then correct me, please. But I believe this is a very faulty system. If you win anything using it, count it off as luck. Eventually it will ruin you.

Here's your problem. You start counting from a NEGATIVE number, so when you place a max bet at +4 you are actually at a higher running count than +4. For example, in a single deck game you start counting from -4.

[QFIT]

Look up Mein Kampf on Amazon and you will see numerous rave reviews. That doesn't mean Hitler was right. Anyone can write an Amazon review making the feature worse than useless.

[Mikeaber]

Originally Posted by ScottH

Here's your problem. You start counting from a NEGATIVE number, so when you place a max bet at +4 you are actually at a higher running count than +4. For example, in a single deck game you start counting from -4.

Actually Scott, you start -4 with double deck and 0 with Single deck. KC is +1 for Double Deck and +2 for Single.

[supercoolmancool]

Originally Posted by ScottH

Here's your problem. You start counting from a NEGATIVE number, so when you place a max bet at +4 you are actually at a higher running count than +4. For example, in a single deck game you start counting from -4.

Actually you start at zero for a single deck game and -4 for a two deck game. The problem is that he is confusing running count with true count. But yah you can definately be betting high when the dealer has the advantage because it is an unbalanced system. However +4 running count is also the true count +4 and that is when you bet your max bet.

[ScottH]

Originally Posted by Mikeaber

Actually Scott, you start -4 with double deck and 0 with Single deck. KC is +1 for Double Deck and +2 for Single.

My mistake. I'm used to -4 since I have been practicing double deck!

[ScottH]

Originally Posted by supercoolmancool

Actually you start at zero for a single deck game and -4 for a two deck game. The problem is that he is confusing running count with true count. But yah you can definately be betting high when the dealer has the advantage because it is an unbalanced system. However +4 running count is also the true count +4 and that is when you bet your max bet.

You won't be betting more than the minimum at a disadvantage. You're only betting high when you have the advantage. You just can't be sure how great the advantage is until you hit +4.

[supercoolmancool]

Originally Posted by ScottH

You won't be betting more than the minimum at a disadvantage. You're only betting high when you have the advantage. You just can't be sure how great the advantage is until you hit +4.

I agree now that you do always have the advantage at the key count. He just doesn't understand why the key count is at -4 when at the end of the deck the count is at +4. I think someone said that all the key counts are determined by computer simulation.

[ScottH]

Originally Posted by supercoolmancool

I agree now that you do always have the advantage at the key count. He just doesn't understand why the key count is at -4 when at the end of the deck the count is at +4. I think someone said that all the key counts are determined by computer simulation.

Maybe he will figure it out after reading the book. He really doesn't understand how KO works, so he was a little premature to say, "Put simply, if you use this system YOU WILL BE BETTING HIGH WHEN THE DEALER HAS THE ADVANTAGE. If I'm wrong then correct me, please. But I believe this is a very faulty system. If you win anything using it, count it off as luck. Eventually it will ruin you."