Melbourne Crown Casino

[neutral2005]

I'm quite curious if anyone from australia do research on card counting
this would be a nice place to share the experiences and help out with strategies to beat crown casino. I havent tried out the hi/lo true count
Has anyone play with any strategie that help them win in crown casino?

[KenSmith]

Here's a copy of a submission to the Victorian Casino and Gaming Authority from a card counter who challenged the casino's handling of his situation.

I figured you might find it interesting. It's posted on the CardCounter.com site, here:

http://www.cardcounter.com/VCGA_Subm...1_Aug_2001.htm

[morry]

Good read there Ken. Do you have any idea about what he meant by box size or something? That part confused me.

Id be keen to know if anyone has had an experience at Crown too.

[BJteam_player?]

I have played BJ at Crown, Adelaide, Launceston and Jupiters.

Launceston and Jupiters before I "really" understood the Game.

At Adelaide I "studied" and developed a style.

At Crown I play occassionally.

What I want to do is get a team together (preferably 7 players) and "hit" a Table, all playing by the same set of rules (BS and optional extras?) and all with the same bankroll.

When I play, I play for the Table, even if some players play for themselves.
I will sacrifice my hand to save the table, but if other players don't get the message, I lower my bet and play "crazy" for a couple of hands, until they realise that we are "all" playing against the House and not against each other.

Happy BJing

[Mikeaber]

Originally Posted by BJteam_player?

I have played BJ at Crown, Adelaide, Launceston and Jupiters.

Launceston and Jupiters before I "really" understood the Game.

At Adelaide I "studied" and developed a style.

At Crown I play occassionally.

What I want to do is get a team together (preferably 7 players) and "hit" a Table, all playing by the same set of rules (BS and optional extras?) and all with the same bankroll.

When I play, I play for the Table, even if some players play for themselves.
I will sacrifice my hand to save the table, but if other players don't get the message, I lower my bet and play "crazy" for a couple of hands, until they realise that we are "all" playing against the House and not against each other.

Happy BJing

Just curious....how do you know when to "take one for the table?"

[BJteam_player?]

Generally when the Dealer shows a 7 or higher (no hole card) and I have a 14,15 or 16, the rest have standing hands. A Ten will give the dealer 17, I take that Ten, and dealer gets a small card then a Ten to bust.

When I play, I watch every one elses hands and try to work out if they will draw,double or sit.

10 years ago I picked up $14,000, on $25 table, and ended up playing 3 boxes at $1000 a box (losing one to save 2).

I don't mind playing 3rd Base, but prefer to play 1st Base, or even position 4 (middle Box- is this called 2nd Base?), so I can influence better play from those on my left.

Once I noticed one guy handing money hand over fist playing 3rd Base, He saved my bacon a few times (I was on 1st) and I tossed him $250 (I was up $1000, he down probably $2000).

My basic rules are:
- NEVER split 10's
- If dealer shows an A, double or split (if you can) you only lose the OB if BJ occurs - also acts as Insurance
- NEVER take Insurance

Happy BJing

[Mikeaber]

I guess I always assumed that stastically, there is aprox 39% chance of the next card dealt being a 10 or Ace (31% for a 10 only and not an Ace) and that that proportion depends not in the least on the previous card dealt. Of course, that is not considering someone keeping count of the deck and knowing when the deck is rich or poor in 10's.

Based on that, there is aprox a 40% chance that you are going to hit a 10 or ace (30% aprox for only a 10) and 60% or 70% that you will not. Subsequently, there are those same probabilities that the dealer is going to do the same thing no matter what you elect to do.

So, I come back to the same question....how do you KNOW when to hit and when not to hit?

I also sometimes hit 16's against a dealer "made hand." Stastically, you have a better chance of coming out ahead if you always hit it rather than always standing on the hard 16 (actually you earn a whopping 1% advantage by always hitting....not exactly overwhelming <smile>)

[BJteam_player?]

But sometimes, I sit on a poor hand, 13 say, against a Dealer 10
Every one has, say 19, BJ, 18, 20.
Say I draw a 7 (puts Me on 20) reasonably STRONG.
But the Dealers next card is an A (Dealer BJ, 4 loses ands a push)
But lets say, I SIT, a WEAK hand against a Ten, the 7 goes to the Dealer.

Basically, I use intuition, I tend to see "run" of Cards.
I don't count, per se. I have actually been on a Table the you saw the swing from Dealer Winning to Player Winning, and we "Rode the Wave" and I managed to get back to Square, then left (it took 8 hours).

Happy BJing

[sluice7]

Hey partner, How much are you selling that 'Aussie Intuition' for? Do you wear a special pair of glassesto see those 'run of cards?' I'm interested..

[Mikeaber]

Originally Posted by BJteam_player?

But sometimes, I sit on a poor hand, 13 say, against a Dealer 10
Every one has, say 19, BJ, 18, 20.
Say I draw a 7 (puts Me on 20) reasonably STRONG.
But the Dealers next card is an A (Dealer BJ, 4 loses ands a push)
But lets say, I SIT, a WEAK hand against a Ten, the 7 goes to the Dealer.

Basically, I use intuition, I tend to see "run" of Cards.
I don't count, per se. I have actually been on a Table the you saw the swing from Dealer Winning to Player Winning, and we "Rode the Wave" and I managed to get back to Square, then left (it took 8 hours).

Happy BJing

I guess I must have missed out on the ration of intuition when it was being doled out. I too have seen runs but have never been able to predict when one is going to begin or end. Seems like when I've tried to capitalize on them, they pick that particular time to turn around. With that particular talent of mine, I should be able to get a job as a cooler.

All the luck to you though if it works for you! I mean that!