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August 8th, 2011, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by zengrifter
ZG's opinion, while we wait: Spooking is illegal-cheating, in Nevada anyway.
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Gotta agree with zg on this one.
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August 9th, 2011, 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Richard Munchkin
Now I'm sure a bunch of people will jump in here and tell you that spooking is illegal. That is an opinion as far as I know, not a fact. I don't believe there has ever been a spooking case conviction or even a trial that I am aware of.
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What have been cases where there was a conviction or trial?
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August 9th, 2011, 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Richard Munchkin
One of my favorite quotes from my book was Chip Reese saying,
"Just because I haven't done anything wrong doesn't mean I won't have to defend myself some day."
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That sounds more like Billy Walters. z  g
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August 9th, 2011, 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by paddywhack
Gotta agree with zg on this one.
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Which one do you NOT agree with? z  g
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August 9th, 2011, 01:17 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Munchkin
Now I'm sure a bunch of people will jump in here and tell you that spooking is illegal. That is an opinion as far as I know, not a fact. I don't believe there has ever been a spooking case conviction or even a trial that I am aware of. Bob Nersesian is the guest this week on Gambling With an Edge, and if we get time I will ask him about this.
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Along similar lines, a qualified legal opinion can be rendered that holecarding is an illicit act.
On the flip side, the Nevada Device Law, ban against hidden computer use, has some shaky Constitutional
conflicts and has never been sufficiently tested. zg
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August 9th, 2011, 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by zengrifter
ZG's opinion, while we wait: Spooking is illegal-cheating, in Nevada anyway.
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If Bob Nersesian posted this, I MIGHT give weight to his opinion, based on reputation alone, but I'd probably expect even him to explain his reasoning and the authority on which it was based. When zengrifter says this, I can't bring myself to attach any importance to it.
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August 9th, 2011, 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by WRX
If Bob Nersesian posted this, I MIGHT give weight to his opinion, based on reputation alone, but I'd probably expect even him to explain his reasoning and the authority on which it was based. When zengrifter says this, I can't bring myself to attach any importance to it.
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I thought that I properly qualified my comment with this --
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Originally Posted by zengrifter
Along similar lines, a qualified legal opinion can be rendered that holecarding is an illicit act.
On the flip side, the Nevada Device Law, [ostensibly a] ban against hidden computer use, has some shaky Constitutional
conflicts and has never been sufficiently tested. zg
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My initial opinion was conventional, and I did not read Richard's observation initially.
Now I see that spooking MIGHT be "only" a gray area. zg
Last edited by zengrifter; August 9th, 2011 at 01:34 AM.
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August 9th, 2011, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by bobstaman
What have been cases where there was a conviction or trial?
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Well, there have been cases that went to the Supreme Court where they ruled that hole carding is legal. There have been cases brought to trial where they ruled using a hidden computer is illegal.
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August 9th, 2011, 09:46 PM
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I've stood and stared at ploppies for hours. Sometimes it works and makes them uncomfortable enough to leave, a lot of times it doesn't. If it's clear you're making someone uncomfortable, start standing closer to them.
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August 9th, 2011, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by pit15
I've stood and stared at ploppies for hours. Sometimes it works and makes them uncomfortable enough to leave, a lot of times it doesn't. If it's clear you're making someone uncomfortable, start standing closer to them.
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I think a whole book could be written about what people have done to get a civilian out of a seat.
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