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August 31st, 2011, 11:24 PM
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I love how everyone is humoring him...
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I think Jack Black's response pretty much summed up everyone's reaction
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September 1st, 2011, 10:19 AM
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I think the MIT investors broke up because they figured out they could get higher returns from other investments, for example real estate?
Having said that, if I was an investor, an AP team might be an interesting way to diversify my investments, its performance having absolutely zero correlation to any financial market or commodity (maybe inflation would be bad for an investment in AP play too). But can only imagine the hassle and costs of running a team, including costs that will eat into your profits.
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Investing in an AP team can be EXTREMELY profitable. That being said, investing in a strictly card-counting team can be rough. The BP Method isn't such a big secret anymore and laying down huge spreads is not really a longevity-building practice. And the variance is huge.
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September 1st, 2011, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Dyepaintball12
Investing in an AP team can be EXTREMELY profitable. That being said, investing in a strictly card-counting team can be rough. The BP Method isn't such a big secret anymore and laying down huge spreads is not really a longevity-building practice. And the variance is huge.
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Playing with a team is way better than playing solo. Solo play variance is way worse compared to teamplay - obviously the fact that you can acquire a massive amount of played hands with a team makes the variance a hundred times more tolerable than solo play, although I have read of entire teams of 10-20 players having losing quarters.
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September 1st, 2011, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by deadlywizard234
Playing with a team is way better than playing solo. Solo play variance is way worse compared to teamplay - obviously the fact that you can acquire a massive amount of played hands with a team makes the variance a hundred times more tolerable than solo play, although I have read of entire teams of 10-20 players having losing quarters.
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It depends what kind of team you're talking about. Yeah, an EMFH team that has lots of players can get an amazing amount of hours and hit N0 quickly. But a BP team with only one or two BPs getting 30 hands/hr max can be rough. Especially with BIG bets.
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September 1st, 2011, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by deadlywizard234
Playing with a team is way better than playing solo.
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It depends on the team. I'd rather play solo than play on a team that had even one weak player*, let alone a team full of newbies. That's probably the main reason that the OP isn't going to get any serious replies.
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*Channeling Grouch Marx, I would never join a team that would have me as a member.
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September 1st, 2011, 12:37 PM
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It depends on the team. I'd rather play solo than play on a team that had even one weak player*, let alone a team full of newbies. That's probably the main reason that the OP isn't going to get any serious replies.
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I don't know. Like everything else, I think "It depends."
Pooling resources is a good way for a group of inexperienced guys to learn together and maximize their EV in the process. A team approach where you always play in pairs has a lot of advantages, and one of them being that a team member whose play is unacceptable will quickly be identified, as he has paired with everyone else on the team at some time and they all say he is NFG.
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September 1st, 2011, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Dyepaintball12
Investing in an AP team can be EXTREMELY profitable. That being said, investing in a strictly card-counting team can be rough. The BP Method isn't such a big secret anymore and laying down huge spreads is not really a longevity-building practice. And the variance is huge.
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Right, sure there's some forms of AP where the advantage is much higher than CC'ing.
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September 1st, 2011, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Automatic Monkey
A team approach where you always play in pairs has a lot of advantages.
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Yep, you can get certain advantages playing with others that you would not get playing solo.
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September 1st, 2011, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by dyepaintball12
it depends what kind of team you're talking about. Yeah, an emfh team that has lots of players can get an amazing amount of hours and hit n0 quickly. But a bp team with only one or two bps getting 30 hands/hr max can be rough. Especially with big bets.
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emfh?
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September 1st, 2011, 08:35 PM
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