Table Courtesy Question

[rrwoods]

I'm surprised you're getting as much sympathy as you are. As a basic strategy player, you should honestly welcome players with open arms to an empty table as it makes you lose slower. Barring smokers and people who haven't seen a shower in a week, of course.

[lovethespaniard]

They're gonna have to pry the Marlboros from my cold dead hands.

I am a very considerate smoker who is aware of where my smoke goes and am tidy with the ashes. I never blow smoke towards anyone. But I am less and less amused at the haughty theatrics of some people...coughing and waving their hands to clear the air with heavy pissy sighs. It is in a casino, fer chrissakes.

I miss the old days when people didn't act like smoke nazis. I think a lot of it is that the simulated cork-looking filter is actually thousands of multi-hued, multi-sized dots that are embedded, mosaiced S's, E's and X's hundreds of times in what is supposed to be subliminal...and people don't like it that you put "sex" in your mouth in front of them.

I bet that the smoke nazis love the smell of their own farts, though.

[Sucker]

Let me get this straight - you fill the air with poisonous gases, and then you call your VICTIMS the nazis?

[tribute]

Originally Posted by greenbird

Hey guys,
So my question is what should I say to the next person to do this to me? Should I ask beforehand, how many hands do you plan on playing or is that none of my business? Or do I ask them politely to play one hand? Or should it not bother me at all and just play my hand? I just find it to be rude and discourteous.

As already stated, not much you can do besides just tell the player what you prefer. Most players will politely comply. My experience has shown that I am better off with one or two other players at the table, anyway.

[Blue Efficacy]

I liked playing heads up before I learned AP, too.

Some people gamble for fun, and are willing to pay for it. If he indeed plays BS it is relatively inexpensive entertainment. Don't judge!

[Craps Master]

Originally Posted by greenbird

So my question is what should I say to the next person to do this to me? Should I ask beforehand, how many hands do you plan on playing or is that none of my business? Or do I ask them politely to play one hand? Or should it not bother me at all and just play my hand? I just find it to be rude and discourteous.

Y'all have seen it all and have many experiences, so your thoughts please? Thanks

When they ask if they can jump in, just say, "Yes, but would you mind just playing one hand? Too many hands will change the cards too much." That should do the trick.

[lovethespaniard]

Originally Posted by Sucker

Let me get this straight - you fill the air with poisonous gases, and then you call your VICTIMS the nazis?

Do you exhale? Do you drive a car? Every time you start your engine, you create "victims" with your action due to poisonous gasses.

Driving a car is legal. People do it on streets.

Smoking tobacco is legal. People do it in casinos.

Aside from causing the trauma of someone having to smell my cigarette, I'd be hard to convince any other damage has been done by my second hand smoke, so once again, by using the term "victim", the theatrical rhetorical overkill of anti-tobacco people rears it's ugly goofy head.

[Craps Master]

Originally Posted by lovethespaniard

Do you exhale? Do you drive a car? Every time you start your engine, you create "victims" with your action due to poisonous gasses.

Driving a car is legal. People do it on streets.

Smoking tobacco is legal. People do it in casinos.

Aside from causing the trauma of someone having to smell my cigarette, I'd be hard to convince any other damage has been done by my second hand smoke, so once again, by using the term "victim", the theatrical rhetorical overkill of anti-tobacco people rears it's ugly goofy head.

The old "two wrongs makes a right" argument.

[tthree]

Originally Posted by lovethespaniard

Do you exhale? Do you drive a car? Every time you start your engine, you create "victims" with your action due to poisonous gasses.

Driving a car is legal. People do it on streets.

Smoking tobacco is legal. People do it in casinos.

Aside from causing the trauma of someone having to smell my cigarette, I'd be hard to convince any other damage has been done by my second hand smoke, so once again, by using the term "victim", the theatrical rhetorical overkill of anti-tobacco people rears it's ugly goofy head.

I used to smoke. I was sick all the time. After I quit I never got sick. The only time I got sick was when I went on vacation with my in-laws. They were all heavy smokers. I finally realized I must be allergic or something. A good dose of second hand smoke and I get a reaction just like hay fever. I really don't care if people smoke I just don't want to breath it. Outside I can always move upwind. In a casino the "breeze" usually seems to blows into the pit. As long as a smoker is conscientious and makes an effort to keep the smoke away I will gladly suffer through some errant smoke. If it gets to bad I can leave but that is rarely necessary. I do like all the smoke free areas though. The first thing I do when I sit down is ask the dealer if it can be a smoke free table. Since they usually get the worst of it they really appreciate it. They want me to play at their table and have been known to cut skinny to entice me to play at their table. Keep smoking, I can use any advantage I can get.

[jaygruden]

Originally Posted by lovethespaniard

Do you exhale? Do you drive a car? Every time you start your engine, you create "victims" with your action due to poisonous gasses.

Driving a car is legal. People do it on streets.

Smoking tobacco is legal. People do it in casinos.

Aside from causing the trauma of someone having to smell my cigarette, I'd be hard to convince any other damage has been done by my second hand smoke, so once again, by using the term "victim", the theatrical rhetorical overkill of anti-tobacco people rears it's ugly goofy head.

I use smoke-less tobacco so I don't judge anyone who smokes...but I have been told this many times at many casinos....."You are not allowed to chew tobacco in here." When I ask why, they tell me that the spit is considered a "bio-hazard" and they can't have it in the casino. It is amazing to me that the casino will allow fire sticks in the casino and allow people to blow smoke in my face and in the face of other patrons and employees but they won't let me chew tobacco and spit in a bottle that I keep beneath the table and keep a cap on it so there is no chance it will spill or get on the table or floor.

This strikes me as extremely odd. I know that smokeless tobacco is no less dangerous to me than cigarettes are dangerous to smokers......the difference is that I am only hurting myself while smokers are hurting themselves AND everyone else within the secondhand smoke range. I don't spit in anyone elses mouth but they can blow smoke into my breathing area. What sense does this make? Before I became an AP, when I was told I was not allowed to chew, I blatantly refused to stop. I dared them to throw me out for doing it and no one ever did. I said that if you throw me out for chewing I could bring a discrimination lawsuit against them. If you want to have a "tobacco free" casino then it would have to include all tobacco products, not just chew/snuff......Now I just hide it because I don't want to attract any attention to myself.

Now that I think about it, I should have threatened a discrimination lawsuit when I got BO'd for Counting. If you are not going to allow card counting in a casino then you should not allow any type of counting. Everyone who counts their chips should be kicked out. Kickout those who are counting their money upon buy-in, and do not allow people to count the card value of their hand. Only the dealer should be allowed to count the value of your hand and count the chips they give you. We should trust that they are counting correctly.