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Old September 21st, 2011, 11:25 PM
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Just stumbled upon this casino which is saying they have pure blackjack with no collection fee per hand. Is this actual countable blackjack?
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Old September 22nd, 2011, 04:11 PM
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Tell us what the conditions are. The no. of decks, the penetration, and the rules.

Their website does not give rules and procedures and references the game as "Pure Blackjack" --
which means that the game will probably be hideous e.g. 8 deckers with H17 and 2 decks cut off.

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Old September 22nd, 2011, 06:41 PM
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I'll let you know when I pass by it on the way back from LA in a month, but have you ever seen anything like this at a non indian res casino in CA?
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Old September 22nd, 2011, 08:49 PM
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Ok nevermind then, I gave em a call and it looks like csm on tables, 6 deck and 6:5 bj payout. awful
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Old September 24th, 2011, 07:47 PM
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This is a common game at the CA card rooms.
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Old October 2nd, 2011, 06:04 PM
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This is a common game at the CA card rooms.
No not really. Most card rooms have "no bust" blackjack which actually gives the player a 0.5% edge inherently (playing basic strat tailored to "no bust"), but the collection fee swings the edge back to the house.
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Old October 3rd, 2011, 07:07 PM
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No not really. Most card rooms have "no bust" blackjack which actually gives the player a 0.5% edge inherently (playing basic strat tailored to "no bust"), but the collection fee swings the edge back to the house.
I thought most did away with the no bust thing. Oh well.
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Old October 3rd, 2011, 07:23 PM
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I thought I read some academic paper about how no bust blackjack had something like a >1% house edge and an ante
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Old October 3rd, 2011, 10:45 PM
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No not really. Most card rooms have "no bust" blackjack which actually gives the player a 0.5% edge inherently (playing basic strat tailored to "no bust"), but the collection fee swings the edge back to the house.
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I thought I read some academic paper about how no bust blackjack had something like a >1% house edge and an ante
Last I checked with wizard of odds, 6-deck and 8-deck 6:5 blackjack games give the house around 2% edge. Itís quite difficult, if not impossible, to beat these games with just straight counting.
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Old October 4th, 2011, 06:18 AM
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Last I checked with wizard of odds, 6-deck and 8-deck 6:5 blackjack games give the house around 2% edge. Itís quite difficult, if not impossible, to beat these games with just straight counting.
The places that charge the ante are 3:2.
 

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