aviator casino in Delano, CA

[arrando]

Just stumbled upon this casino which is saying they have pure blackjack with no collection fee per hand. Is this actual countable blackjack?

[FLASH1296]

Tell us what the conditions are. The no. of decks, the penetration, and the rules.

Their website does not give rules and procedures and references the game as "Pure Blackjack" --
which means that the game will probably be hideous e.g. 8 deckers with H17 and 2 decks cut off.

[arrando]

I'll let you know when I pass by it on the way back from LA in a month, but have you ever seen anything like this at a non indian res casino in CA?

[arrando]

Ok nevermind then, I gave em a call and it looks like csm on tables, 6 deck and 6:5 bj payout. awful

[irobinson]

This is a common game at the CA card rooms.

[arrando]

Originally Posted by irobinson

This is a common game at the CA card rooms.

No not really. Most card rooms have "no bust" blackjack which actually gives the player a 0.5% edge inherently (playing basic strat tailored to "no bust"), but the collection fee swings the edge back to the house.

[irobinson]

Originally Posted by arrando

No not really. Most card rooms have "no bust" blackjack which actually gives the player a 0.5% edge inherently (playing basic strat tailored to "no bust"), but the collection fee swings the edge back to the house.

I thought most did away with the no bust thing. Oh well.

[blackriver]

I thought I read some academic paper about how no bust blackjack had something like a >1% house edge and an ante

[nicetrades200303]

Originally Posted by arrando

No not really. Most card rooms have "no bust" blackjack which actually gives the player a 0.5% edge inherently (playing basic strat tailored to "no bust"), but the collection fee swings the edge back to the house.

Originally Posted by blackriver

I thought I read some academic paper about how no bust blackjack had something like a >1% house edge and an ante

Last I checked with wizard of odds, 6-deck and 8-deck 6:5 blackjack games give the house around 2% edge. It’s quite difficult, if not impossible, to beat these games with just straight counting.

[irobinson]

Originally Posted by nicetrades200303

Last I checked with wizard of odds, 6-deck and 8-deck 6:5 blackjack games give the house around 2% edge. It’s quite difficult, if not impossible, to beat these games with just straight counting.

The places that charge the ante are 3:2.