Multiparameter count and shuffle tracking..

[PierceNation]

Thats fair enough. I go through my drills daily and can cut to within 3 cards on half deck segments every time now, so I am happy with the progress I am making with it, still got a while to go yet though.

Originally Posted by HockeXpert

Zen is ok for tracking but hi-lo is better.

Sorry if i'm missing the point, but when you say HiLo is better, do you mean easier? If Zen has a higher BC and PE surely it would be better to use Zen, providing you could be as accurate as you are with HiLo?

[PierceNation]

You know what, **** it, ill just stick with HiLo the betting correlation is the same anyway.

[HockeXpert]

Originally Posted by PierceNation

Sorry if i'm missing the point, but when you say HiLo is better, do you mean easier? If Zen has a higher BC and PE surely it would be better to use Zen, providing you could be as accurate as you are with HiLo?

Zen has an ever so slightly lower bc than hi-lo. The biggest difference I see in the tags is the undervaluation of the ace in Zen. To me that is critical and it shows in the slightly higher bc for hi-lo.

[zengrifter]

Originally Posted by PierceNation

Anybody got any ideas/information/statistics on the pros/cons of using a multiparameter level count in conjunction with shuffle tracking?

You are confused - a multiparameter system is based on bi-valuate card value approximations.
I think you mean multilevel count (ie, ZEN level-2, etc.) zg

[zengrifter]

Originally Posted by PierceNation

I should point out that I quite comfortably used Zen for quite some time before I switched to HiLo for the purpose of learning ST, and your right, I am bored and I am good at maths so I guess its up to me and no your wrong I'm not a pro but I'm definately not inexperienced.

If ST means I will have to sit through counts that go into huge negatives, I want a top notch PE. Time and motivation to practise to a high standard are not really two issues I need to worry about with my work.

What I really wanted to know is if a level 2 count would not give an accurate ratio of 10s to low cards, thus making it less potent?

If it makes no difference that's fine, just wondered if anyone had any maths on it?

ST with ZEN is fine. zg

[Gramazeka]

Team play 2 player.- Hi Lo+ST and Unbalanse Ten count+ST. Very very good result. This best that it is possible to think up.

[PierceNation]

Originally Posted by zengrifter

I think you mean multilevel count (ie, ZEN level-2, etc.) zg

Yes thats what I meant, sorry.

Originally Posted by zengrifter

ST with ZEN is fine. zg

Thanks, games can be hard enough in England as it is, so i'm trying to push for as high a skill level as possible.

Pierce

[AussiePlayer]

If you're hell-bent on using a level 2 count, RPC has a BC of .99

[PierceNation]

I thought it was a level 4? Or is that the RAPC..

I'm trying to run some sims at the mo to see how a higher PE effects EV in the long run. If its negligible, I'll stick with HiLo.

[AussiePlayer]

Originally Posted by PierceNation

I thought it was a level 4? Or is that the RAPC..

I'm trying to run some sims at the mo to see how a higher PE effects EV in the long run. If its negligible, I'll stick with HiLo.

HiLo would still be your best bet IMO, if however you did want to use a 2 level count, I would not compromise any BC for PE.