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Old October 4th, 2011, 07:21 AM
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Thanks Jackblack
And the rest of ya,
So basically the whole friggin world is running on valueless money. Everybody ,country , is trying to jockey for position as not to be the last man standing, or holding the bag.
Musical chairs kind of thing.........OK
Greece is 30th in GDP and this could ripple stuff......hmmmmmmm

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Old October 4th, 2011, 09:02 AM
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Nice to be reminded why I have stopped responding to the far left posters here----------they just don't get it.

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a few things:

I'm not far left, and I fail to see how my post has made any evidence to indicate so.

BJ avenger's answer was wrong and Greece's failure has nothing to do with socialism.

every debate I've ever had with you has ended with me proving you wrong. perhaps you're the one who doesn't "get it?"
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Old October 4th, 2011, 09:22 AM
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I said my piece. I am not getting involved in the political BS.
But you're the one who keeps bringing up politicians and the media.
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Old October 4th, 2011, 09:42 AM
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Thanks Jackblack
Everybody ,country , is trying to jockey for position as not to be the last man standing, or holding the bag.
Musical chairs kind of thing.........OK


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No. It's not a race to the top, fight to the finish thing. Nations are trying to solve the problem in order to restore harmony to the system and allow trading to continue. the problem is everyone likes being rich, even if it means just being rich on paper. It's like every nation is a teenager who just got his first credit card.

but back to last man standing, I will say that there are ways to cash in on the greed of others. shorting/selling various financial instruments. etc. etc.
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Old October 4th, 2011, 09:45 AM
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Nice to be reminded why I have stopped responding to the far left posters here----------they just don't get it.

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And here I was thinking you'd finally gotten tired of having your ass kicked by facts.
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Old October 4th, 2011, 12:54 PM
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And here I was thinking you'd finally gotten tired of having your ass kicked by facts.
Then you'll have no problem listing examples 1 thru 10 of those happenings (I feel generous today------just make it 1 thru 3)

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Old October 4th, 2011, 01:05 PM
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a few things:



every debate I've ever had with you has ended with me proving you wrong. perhaps you're the one who doesn't "get it?"
Let's see some specifics Jack.

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Old October 4th, 2011, 02:09 PM
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Default ummmmm jack black

I think the IMF demands Greece tighten up its social net? Because of the cost to the budget. Yep, the IMF demanded trimming of state retirement programs. So social programs do actually have to be paid for.

The US budget breaker? Social programs.
If you take the cost of SS & Medicare into the future it breaks the US.

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Old October 4th, 2011, 02:47 PM
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But you're the one who keeps bringing up politicians and the media.
There was no parties mentioned or anything EXCEPT for the most recent example that I sighted (I felt an example was prudent. I didn't care which side I used. I went with the most recent one I could think of). These guys own both parties so it is not politics it is the cause of our troubles and how they use their influence to keep us from fixing it. Politics is irrelevant except for getting rid of anyone trying to keep the status quo (America being the new Greece is the result of keeping the status quo) all parties included. You all keep trying to pigeon hole me were I don't belong. Try actually reading my posts instead of deciding what I am saying before you get halfway thru. I back no party and support causes I believe are right independent of who traditionally supports them. I do bring up the media and special interests but independent of politics.
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Old October 4th, 2011, 04:17 PM
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Aside from the increased spending which is not going to help our economy since it is on borrowed money, part of the problem is the huge income disparity between the rich and even now the middle class. The middle class has always been the backbone of this country. When you have the CEOs of the major companies hoarding cash despite excellent profits, that doesn't help the situation. They are taking advantage of this economy to keep pay down for employees and are playing into the fear by not hiring. in addition, since they are the ones with all of the money they can afford to invest money which helps them get richer. Meanwhile, the middle class/poor is holding the bag and are seeing purchasing power go down. I know just from experience, my costs (food, rent, gas,health insurance, etc have increased at least 100% since 2000. Do you think the average salary has increased anywhere near that much? I highly doubt it. Make no mistake. It's a tough world out there and only the strongest/smartest are going to survive.
 

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