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Old October 13th, 2011, 09:44 PM
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Default "Don't Stay Where You Count"??

I've read that visitors planning to visit Vegas should avoid staying at any hotel/resort where they plan to be counting, to avoid potentially being 86ed out suite in the early hours of the morning.

Is that actually good advice? I'm inclined to believe it is, but am open to suggestions.

It could be classified as a variant of "Don't shoot holes in your own boat."

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Old October 13th, 2011, 10:22 PM
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Old October 13th, 2011, 11:05 PM
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It really depends on the size of your bets. I can't imagine any hotel, not even Terribles or El Cortez kicking you out of your room unless you were spreading multiple blacks.
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Old October 13th, 2011, 11:49 PM
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It is my understanding that last years ruling in the Thomas Robertson case,(jerry's nugget case) won by Bob N states that casinos in Nevada, no longer (or more accurately, never did) have the right to ban players from the property simply for AP activities. They can refuse to take your action but cannot ban you from the property without cause, meaning unless you have engaged in some other illegal activity. This certainly would include kicking you out of your room.

However they certainly have the right to not comp you that room and for that reason alone it may still be a good idea not to play where you stay. Also despite the fact that legally, they can't do it, you don't want to place yourself in the position of making this argument at 3am in the morning as they are doing so.

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Old October 14th, 2011, 05:56 AM
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if that were so - that would mean that all trespasses (for reasons of being an AP) are illegal.... ?

However - they don't have to provide you with a reason for the trespass, do they ? And to my understanding this comes under any place of business having a right to refuse service for whatever reason (unless it's discrimination, and APs are not a recognized minority..)



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It is my understanding that last years ruling in the Thomas Robertson case,(jerry's nugget case) won by Bob N states that casinos in Nevada, no longer (or more accurately, never did) have the right to ban players from the property simply for AP activities. They can refuse to take your action but cannot ban you from the property without cause, meaning unless you have engaged in some other illegal activity. This certainly would include kicking you out of your room.

However they certainly have the right to not comp you that room and for that reason alone it may still be a good idea not to play where you stay. Also despite the fact that legally, they can't do it, you don't want to place yourself in the position of making this argument at 3am in the morning as they are doing so.

http://bj21.com/advantageplay/lawand...passcase.shtml
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Old October 14th, 2011, 06:18 AM
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It is my understanding that last years ruling in the Thomas Robertson case,(jerry's nugget case) won by Bob N states that casinos in Nevada, no longer (or more accurately, never did) have the right to ban players from the property simply for AP activities. They can refuse to take your action but cannot ban you from the property without cause, meaning unless you have engaged in some other illegal activity. This certainly would include kicking you out of your room.

However they certainly have the right to not comp you that room and for that reason alone it may still be a good idea not to play where you stay. Also despite the fact that legally, they can't do it, you don't want to place yourself in the position of making this argument at 3am in the morning as they are doing so.

http://bj21.com/advantageplay/lawand...passcase.shtml
I always found it hard to get a room comp if you don't play at their casino. What am I doing wrong?
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Old October 14th, 2011, 10:16 AM
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I always found it hard to get a room comp if you don't play at their casino. What am I doing wrong?

Where should we start?
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Old October 14th, 2011, 01:57 PM
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Just don't get caught!
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Old October 14th, 2011, 03:04 PM
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I always found it hard to get a room comp if you don't play at their casino. What am I doing wrong?
I play only shoe BJ, not DD, for about 2 hour a day at hotels I stay. I reduce my spread to about 5 to 1 or 8 to 1. I also play slots for 30 minutes or so. That should cover my room.

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Old October 14th, 2011, 04:04 PM
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I play only shoe BJ, not DD, for about 2 hour a day at hotels I stay. I reduce my spread to about 5 to 1 or 8 to 1. I also play slots for 30 minutes or so. That should cover my room.

Be gentle to the casinos that treat you right.
Thanks. I was just making a hopefully funny smarta*s comment. Someone answered in kind with a smarta*s comment. I got a good laugh.
 

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