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#1
October 18th, 2011, 07:49 PM
 Ferretnparrot Executive Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: New jersey Posts: 595
Aces to be seperated

Due to the nature of the game and that a high percentage of players tend to split ace, drawing additional cards ontop of them. Aces, whe gathered from play and inserted into the discard rack, have a tendacy to be seperated more so than other card values.

You could assume this effect would carry over through the shuffle to some degree offering information to the player in these ways I can think of....

1. Modifiing play decisions when the previous card dealt was an ACE
2. When playing heads up, or at third base, it could give you different odds on insurance when your second card dealt was an ACE, but by how much?

You coudl also use the same logic for the same play decisions with 8s, especially for insurance betting.
#2
October 20th, 2011, 09:26 AM
 Sucker Executive Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 1,504

Quote:
 Originally Posted by Ferretnparrot 1. Modifiing play decisions when the previous card dealt was an ACE
False

Quote:
 Originally Posted by Ferretnparrot 2. When playing heads up, or at third base, it could give you different odds on insurance when your second card dealt was an ACE, but by how much?
Zero. If they didn't shuffle at ALL, it would STILL be ALMOST zero.
#3
October 20th, 2011, 10:26 AM
 FLASH1296 Executive Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: East Coast, U S A Posts: 3,749

Since Aces (normally) cannot be resplit ~ OR ~ hit there
is a minuscule insignificant tendency toward clumping
#4
October 20th, 2011, 11:06 AM
 Sucker Executive Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 1,504

[QUOTE=Ferretnparrot;257306]

Quote:
 Originally Posted by FLASH1296 Since Aces (normally) cannot be resplit ~ OR ~ hit there is a minuscule insignificant tendency toward clumping
Which will be made even MORE minuscule by even the most RUDIMENTARY shuffle; and STILL more minuscule by the fact that on the following rounds the cards are dealt to the players one at a time, which (shuffles) them even more.
#5
October 20th, 2011, 12:27 PM
 FLASH1296 Executive Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: East Coast, U S A Posts: 3,749

I agree. Not minuscule. Microscopic.
#6
October 20th, 2011, 03:39 PM
 chessplayer Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 96

Eights too then.

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