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Old October 31st, 2011, 12:00 PM
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Is Aslan and froggie the same person?

I think Aslan would consider them brothers.


Is non randomness another reason to bet 1/4 to 1/8 kelly?

Did we determine that randomness exists?

If a non random jacks or better game occasionally holds out a 2 or an A from the deal. How many hands until one can realize it? How many hands until it matters in ev?

What if it never permitted a RSF? Wouldn't that destroy any apparent chance of winning?

If we flip every penny in the world at the same time is that random enough? Are there enough Chinese to do it? Would the world survive?

If the Chinese did so in unison, would it tilt the earth on its axis? How many Chinese are required to create randomness? If the earth tilted on its axis, would the world survive? Would the price of copper go through the roof? Why not? What is random? Can you prove it? Does it really even matter? What time is lunch?
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Old October 31st, 2011, 12:13 PM
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I eat at random times. My meals are random. Breakfast at 9PM yesterday but had dinner at 10AM. Oops lunch yesterday is being eaten right now today. I just hate predictability. That's why I like blackjack. I count on unpredictability.
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Old October 31st, 2011, 01:58 PM
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I eat at random times. My meals are random. Breakfast at 9PM yesterday but had dinner at 10AM. Oops lunch yesterday is being eaten right now today. I just hate predictability. That's why I like blackjack. I count on unpredictability.
You are so predictable.
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Old October 31st, 2011, 03:42 PM
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I eat at random times. My meals are random. Breakfast at 9PM yesterday but had dinner at 10AM.
So "breakfast" and "dinner" are arbritary lables based on what the meal consists of? zg
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Old October 31st, 2011, 03:46 PM
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Hand shuffled BJ is not random, one can use the info to an advantage or not use the info and still have an advantage.
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Old October 31st, 2011, 07:14 PM
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Hand shuffled BJ is not random, one can use the info to an advantage or not use the info and still have an advantage.
Random for shuffling is considered the number of times cards must riffled to allow for every possible combination of cards to have a chance of occurrence and is considered to be near enough to random at seven passes.

In conflict with this is the notion that if the cards came out high, low, high, low, high, low, the same to the end, the cards would not be considered random in order.

Since no one knows what random looks like, I wonder how they decide on these conventions? Are there rules that do not allow RNGs to produce certain results, like ace, ace, ace, ace, ace, ace, ace, ace, deuce, deuce, deuce, deuce, deuce, deuce, deuce, deuce, trey, trey, trey, etc., etc?
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Old October 31st, 2011, 07:36 PM
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So "breakfast" and "dinner" are arbritary lables based on what the meal consists of? zg
Some restaurants advertise "breakfast anytime" or "breakfast 24/7."

Sometimes, I like breakfast foods for dinner. Conversely, sometimes, I like dinner foods for breakfast. There is nothing like bacon, eggs and toast for dinner, or spaghetti, pizza or steak for breakfast. Steak and eggs is a hybrid meal; so is chicken and waffles; so why is the former always on a breakfast menu and the latter on a dinner menu? Should there be a food police? Maybe the *dm*n*str*t**n can work on this problem while they are busy r*g*l*t*ng the other foods we eat. I want to eat p*l*t*c*lly correctly.
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Old November 1st, 2011, 03:37 AM
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Some restaurants advertise "breakfast anytime" or "breakfast 24/7."

Sometimes, I like breakfast foods for dinner. Conversely, sometimes, I like dinner foods for breakfast. There is nothing like bacon, eggs and toast for dinner, or spaghetti, pizza or steak for breakfast. Steak and eggs is a hybrid meal; so is chicken and waffles; so why is the former always on a breakfast menu and the latter on a dinner menu? Should there be a food police? Maybe the *dm*n*str*t**n can work on this problem while they are busy r*g*l*t*ng the other foods we eat. I want to eat p*l*t*c*lly correctly.
They don't have lots of breakfast/dinner options on dinner/breakfast menus for the same reason most menus don't have EVERYTHING you want on them except, ironically the cheese cake factory whose name suggests they would have no real "food" options.

Hows that for random

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Old November 1st, 2011, 09:22 AM
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Since no one knows what random looks like, I wonder how they decide on these conventions? Are there rules that do not allow RNGs to produce certain results, like ace, ace, ace, ace, ace, ace, ace, ace, deuce, deuce, deuce, deuce, deuce, deuce, deuce, deuce, trey, trey, trey, etc., etc?
If certain results were not allowed then it wouldn't be random.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diehard_tests

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Old November 1st, 2011, 11:30 AM
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Question so what in nature can be considered random

is there known stuff in nature that is random?

how about the position of an electron over time? that considered random?
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