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Old December 6th, 2011, 07:58 AM
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Yes, but other than Brother Monkey who's gone? (I wish Syph would visit more often) zg
The author himself, for starters

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Old December 6th, 2011, 08:09 AM
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We've lost a lot of knowledgeable posters. And who could blame them. Flame fests and trolls kill anyone's desire to participate.
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Old December 6th, 2011, 08:42 AM
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The author himself, for starters
ExhibitCAA was only around for a short time and he started attacking and name-calling that was wholly inappropriate. Who else? zg
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Old December 6th, 2011, 08:46 AM
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Oh man, the two posts above are just too perfect not to laugh! First the set-up, then the punchline.

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Old December 6th, 2011, 11:29 AM
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From my point of view, it seems to be the senior members that do all the fighting. You guys aren't really the ones who could stand to benefit the most from this forum, you are already making a living or capable of making a living at blackjack.

This forum really helps people who want to learn to be the best AP they can be with advice from people who have already made it. Advice regarding playable games, bet spreads, camo, counting systems, and the math of the game is incredibly invaluable to a member like me. Having the senior members leave due to infighting only hurts new users and users who benefit from their advice.
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Old December 6th, 2011, 11:49 AM
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I would kindly ask you to be very, very careful in the way you have been referring to me in your posts. As you know I have always treated you with respect and helped you with info at those times when you requested it. You repay me now by showing me great disrespect, not wise.

We both know what the real issue is here, and it is very narrow and very limited. We have had private discussions concerning that very serious issue, that you and another are for sure involved in. Hopefully I will learn who the third one is, you know, but will not say.

As to the last two paragraphs in your latest post,, yes, they are very condescending, and insulting to many here, I am sure,,,but then again you have made it rather clear, you really are,, (in your own estimation),special.

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CP, I've addressed you directly in PMs and in this thread, and you've chosen to flat out ignore my very straightforward answers to your questions. Your posts in this thread and in PMs range from baffling to outright threatening. In fact, unless I'm grossly misinterpreting your tone, the threat of actual physical violence is implied in at least one of your posts in this thread. I've never directed any disrespect toward you in the past as you've been kind to me and have in fact been helpful and hospitable, but you've recently made it abundantly clear that:

a) you have no interest in being diplomatic in this situation
b) you are completely unwilling to listen to anything I have to say about the situation
c) you are willing to openly insult myself and others with accusations of elitism and condescension, but then you refuse to address rebuttals, even ones written politely and with respect
d) you are willing to imply the threat of violence to APs who you feel have slighted you

Maybe you should be more careful in the way that you speak to others on the forum. I won't attempt to intimidate you or anyone with warnings to be "very careful," as I have no interest in projecting a falsely tough image, but if you're not careful, you'll continue to lose credibility with posts like these.

I try to be fair and understanding when it comes to this stuff, as creating bad blood in this business is bad for everyone. But my tolerance threshold only goes so high, especially when I've made several good-faith efforts to communicate in a diplomatic sense, both privately and in the open.

By the way, your attempts to lump me in with the current situation are misdirected. I'm only an observer. But you've made several accusations throughout this thread that I can confidently contradict; you've chosen to not only ignore me, but to add me to your list of suspects in the process!
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Old December 6th, 2011, 11:56 AM
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From my point of view, it seems to be the senior members that do all the fighting. You guys aren't really the ones who could stand to benefit the most from this forum, you are already making a living or capable of making a living at blackjack.

This forum really helps people who want to learn to be the best AP they can be with advice from people who have already made it. Advice regarding playable games, bet spreads, camo, counting systems, and the math of the game is incredibly invaluable to a member like me. Having the senior members leave due to infighting only hurts new users and users who benefit from their advice.
Unfortunately, this has happened at all of the forums at one time or another. AP, BJF, BJ21, and now BJInfo.

There are still plenty of valuable posts around, especially on the latter two sites, but petty in-fighting has certainly decreased the value of the dialogue greatly. I don't consider myself to be a great or highly-knowledgeable player, but I try to help out when I can.

This forum was instrumental in helping me to become a serious player, so although I hold no pretense of being a "real pro" (there you go ZG, we all get the reference), I do like to chime in when I feel like I have something valuable to contribute. Unfortunately, I also get wrapped up in ridiculous drama on occasion. It's usually easy to ignore, but when it has a highly negative effect on the quality of already-fragile games, I can't help myself.
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Old December 6th, 2011, 12:26 PM
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We've lost a lot of knowledgeable posters. And who could blame them. Flame fests and trolls kill anyone's desire to participate.
When I was a little boy, and would get in an argument with my brothers; my mom would separate us for a time. Perhaps you could think of a way to implement something similar.

These little petty spats DO get very distracting and sometimes are a real thread-killer. And they always seem to spring up just as the thread is getting to it's most informative stage.
 

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