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November 9th, 2011, 10:46 PM
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If you round instead of floor to get your TC
then insure at 6 or greater.
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November 9th, 2011, 11:29 PM
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I have a lot of respect for you guys that have considerable experience at BJ. I was looking for confirmation since that the insurance bet is so important. I do appreciate you taking the time to give me your examples BJgenius. I think I'll just be using the 1 deck TC.
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November 9th, 2011, 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by laserjet
I have a lot of respect for you guys that have considerable experience at BJ. I was looking for confirmation since that the insurance bet is so important. I do appreciate you taking the time to give me your examples BJgenius. I think I'll just be using the 1 deck TC.
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One deck TC is a good choice for people learning Zen fresh. For people migrating from Hi Lo to Zen, the choice should be half deck true count because the indexes for the two will be roughly the same.
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November 10th, 2011, 08:05 AM
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Or you can just remember to double the indices when they are used. That shouldn't be too hard. I often multiply the index by the number of decks remaining and compare to the RC rather than convert the RC to a TC when RC moved a lot since my bet and it is a close call. I am just faster with some numbers that way. Also it seems easier when using side count adjustments.
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November 10th, 2011, 12:29 PM
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Tthree, I'm curious, are the insurance indices for Hi Opt2 identical for 1, 2, and 6 decks?
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November 10th, 2011, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by laserjet
Tthree, I'm curious, are the insurance indices for Hi Opt2 identical for 1, 2, and 6 decks?
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I mostly play shoe games but for an ace neutral count like HIOPT II I would think so.
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November 13th, 2011, 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by laserjet
Thanks for responding NAP, BJgenius, and tthree. By doubling the high low insurance indices for 1, 2, and 6 decks, I come up with 3, 5, and 6. Are you guys saying that 5 is correct for any number of decks? Just want to be sure.
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Insurance Index Numbers for Zen Count (Count-Per-Deck)
Single Deck +4
Multiple Deck +5
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November 13th, 2011, 04:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by laserjet
Tthree, I'm curious, are the insurance indices for Hi Opt2 identical for 1, 2, and 6 decks?
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Nope, For Hi-Opt II I believe they are
Single +3.5
Double +5
3+ Decks +6
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November 13th, 2011, 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by bigplayer
Nope, For Hi-Opt II I believe they are
Single +3.5
Double +5
3+ Decks +6
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Good to know. I have only played shoe games since learning it but plan to head south when I get fed up with the cold weather probably in February or March. The info might come in handy then. I will probably be counting the neutral cards so I will be accurate without those anyway. I assume the difference is due to the likely range of surplus or deficit neutral cards between the games.
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November 13th, 2011, 03:04 PM
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Thanks bigplayer for coming in even when the count wasn't high.
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