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Old November 21st, 2011, 02:53 PM
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Baloney. Good games are caused because of competitive pressure not the right to bar. If the state said you have to have great rules and cannot bar the casinos would still make a ton of money. Vegas and Reno can bar players all they want and now have the worst games in the country. Atlantic City cannot bar and could have eight deck 6/5 games if they want but do not. It's all about competition and in Las Vegas there isn't any.
That is true, good games do come from competition. I hope that casinos in Ohio will have good rules so the ones in MI will have to start competing with them . What I am saying is basically what happened in AC in the early 80's. If OCC doesn't allow casinos to band players, then the casinos might make all the games bad to protect themselves from AP's. But in the process they will lose revenue to other non-AP players. Ultimately what matters to me and should to all AP's is more competition, and that is the good that is coming out of this!
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Old November 21st, 2011, 04:23 PM
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would it be a safe bet to predict that the Cincinnati casino won't be worth a crap far as blackjack goes, since it is primarily gonna be managed by Harrahs?
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Old November 21st, 2011, 06:49 PM
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would it be a safe bet to predict that the Cincinnati casino won't be worth a crap far as blackjack goes, since it is primarily gonna be managed by Harrahs?
Harrah's isn't all bad. I know of some Harrah's properties that have decent 3-2 single deck.
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Old November 22nd, 2011, 08:54 AM
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Good games are caused because of competitive pressure
FWIW, I was in Cleveland downtown just a couple weeks ago and there were several VERY prominent billboards in prime locations promoting the PA games to OH residents.

So if they're not totally clueless (still a distinct possibility of course) the OH people really *should* realize they're mainly competing with the great PA games, and therefore they *should* be decent games, in theory...
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Harrah's isn't all bad. I know of some Harrah's properties that have decent 3-2 single deck.
Plenty of playable games at Harrah's properties. Maybe not in Vegas, but Vegas is not a prime destination for counters anymore anyway.
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Old November 22nd, 2011, 09:16 PM
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With the first of four new Ohio casinos set to open in 4 months,
Where did you get info they are opening in 4 months?

I looked up the web sites of the Columbus and Cinci casinos and both say late 2012.
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Old November 23rd, 2011, 09:40 AM
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Where did you get info they are opening in 4 months?

I looked up the web sites of the Columbus and Cinci casinos and both say late 2012.
If all goes as planned, the Cleveland casino is set to open on March 26, 2012 - this is the first of the four to open.....

http://500nations.com/casinos/ohClevelandCasino.asp
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Old November 23rd, 2011, 01:54 PM
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would it be a safe bet to predict that the Cincinnati casino won't be worth a crap far as blackjack goes, since it is primarily gonna be managed by Harrahs?
The only safe bet if it's going to be managed by Harrah's is that it will be run poorly, for better or worse.
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Just for the record the casino if it does open in march 2012 will be a temp casino that will be housed in the old Higbee's building. If you don't know, Higbee's it was a department store like May co. before Macy's took it over. If it opens on time the Cleverland Police are no where ready for the criminals that will be ready.
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Just for the record the casino if it does open in march 2012 will be a temp casino that will be housed in the old Higbee's building. If you don't know, Higbee's it was a department store like May co. before Macy's took it over. If it opens on time the Cleverland Police are no where ready for the criminals that will be ready.
Detroit did the same thing and the temporary casinos were just fine.

Between you, the casino security and the police, I think the criminals will get their asses kicked. Let us not live in constant fear, turn the tables, be prepared.

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