A story about J.G.

[zengrifter]

From The Game Killer -
When I ask him to compare himself to the typical card counter, he sharply replies, "There are some people who think that the average card counter is the equivalent of a chimpanzee and I am a fully evolved human. But that's not quite accurate. In reality, card counters are more like salamanders just crawling onto land—even though they think they're swinging through the trees."

[zengrifter]

I am asking Colin at the Holy Rollers to reach out to ExhibitCAA and attempt to bring him to Jesus. zg

[creeping panther]

Originally Posted by zengrifter

According to WIRED he didn't play his first HC until late '97, and then the 1st printing of BC was three years later. That would mean that he started compiling for publication his book of secrets within 18-mos of his first HC? Seems like he was in an awful hurry to spill the beans? Also, if the WIRED date doesn't jive with with other clues in the book, like the intro story?

What yesr did you play your first HC, CP? zg

1999, mid year, on dd and sd, just simply -- and ----- at several casinos, those were the good days, all around good.

CP

[Sucker]

Originally Posted by zengrifter

According to WIRED he didn't play his first HC until late '97, and then the 1st printing of BC was three years later. That would mean that he started compiling for publication his book of secrets within 18-mos of his first HC? Seems like he was in an awful hurry to spill the beans?

This guy is a legend in his own MIND!

I like the part where he says he's the first person to DEVELOP the
"incomplete hole card strategies". I wonder if he actually BELIEVES this.

I personally wrote software and developed these strategies MYSELF back in 1993 - and the ONLY reason I had to do this was because the people BEFORE me simply wouldn't TELL me the strategies. These strategies have certainly been around long before any of US were born.

I guess that the fact that the FIRST people to figure out these strategies kept the secrets for their OWN use ONLY - is a concept that a blabbermouth simply cannot understand.

[tezzadiver]

The one thing he will possibly succeed in is killing many good opportunities for AP`s.
Being a well known face, his revenue has probably dried up at most casino`s due to him not being able to play. Hence `The book`. Which if according to some poster`s here has in actual fact been sold to casino executives etc. and/ if he is not being selective about who gets this information. At $400 a pop- Is it really worthwhile? And if so, for how long?

It reminds me of that poker book for high stakes no limit that sold for about $1400 and practically became defunct in a very short time. I was even able to download a pirate copy.

Unfortunately IMO some people need to leave a legacy, even though it will probably hurt the game in the long run.

[zengrifter]

Originally Posted by creeping panther

1999, mid year, on dd and sd, just simply -- and ----- at several casinos, those were the good days, all around good.

The first time I encountered an HC opp - in 1975 at the old Royal Inn on Convention Center (now Greek Isles). The dealer was flashing every hand - I never encountered anything like that before - at first I thought it might be a set-up, like 3-card Monty or something.

To make matters worse, I had heat already from the SB 'Courtney' - watching the game like a hawk. Finally 'the hand' came: I was dealt A8 and the dealer held 20 - I stupidly hit and got a 2. The dealer flipped his hand and scooped my cards and money and then in mid-scoop did a double take - and then Courtney leaned over and proclaimed "Thats it, you're outta here!"

Lesson partially learned on that first time.

Turns out the flash was never suspected, I sent my buddy in to play later. They apparently presumed that my play was some superior counting. The dealer (big hulking sort of fellow) later became SB at Barbary and Courtney became SB at Gold Coast. zg

[zengrifter]

Originally Posted by Sucker

I guess that the fact that the FIRST people to figure out these strategies kept the secrets for their OWN use ONLY - is a concept that a blabbermouth simply cannot understand.

Back prior to publication was when my Grifter Gambit betting was getting a small amount of discussion. Of course Malmuth had a whole chapter on it years prior.

And I would wonder why he would fill a chapter about using a level-1 balanced count in RC mode at 6D?? Like he was trying to validate the approach??

I noticed that ExhibitCAA shoved a short paragraph into the BC book about the consolidation gambit, like he just had to mention it - similar to the short shrift that John May used in writing "his" BJ secrets "Get The Edge @ BJ" book. A year later May would attempt to explain that his GTEBJ was a defacto companion to BC but that provoked JG to issue the most over-the-top denouncement of GTEBJ and I saw that weird bi-polar or manic-depressive side to him.

[zengrifter]

Originally Posted by tezzadiver

The one thing he will possibly succeed in is killing many good opportunities for AP`s.
Being a well known face, his revenue has probably dried up at most casino`s due to him not being able to play. Hence `The book`. Which if according to some poster`s here has in actual fact been sold to casino executives etc.

No doubt about it - if not always directly at least on the secondary market. zg

[creeping panther]

1975, way back my man!!

Hell, you should have wrote a book on advanced techniques!

CP

[creeping panther]

I have to ask, are you responsible for his missing front tooth??

CP