UBZ2 question from bnoc848

bnoc848 asks:
hey zengrifter, do you know if the UBZ2 betting strategy uses true edge? cause for the advanced red7 you base your bets on the true edge and i find it too hard to do so if UBZ2 dosent use that method i would switch over to it​

No, UBZ2 is strictly a running-count system. zg

I emailed that guy you said sold UBZ2 about a month ago and I havn't gotten a response. Maybe that's because I told him zengrifter referred me! :joker:

Try this email address - [email protected]

get ih here

http://www.advantageplayer.com/blackjack/

Why shouldn't he get it direct from the author? zg

He just told me he doesn't sell it directly, but that I can buy it from any of these sites.

http://www.gamblersgeneralstore.com
http://www.BJ21.com
http://www.BJRNet.com
http://www.advantageplayer.com/blackjack/index.html

how much better is ubz2 over red7? is there a major difference so that i should buy the book?

No, not for you. I am convinced from your questions that you need to walk before you run and so should start with R7 and maybe never switch. zg

I agree with zengrifter. You should learn R7 (or KO) really well before considering upgrading your system.

But Scott on the other hand may proceed directly to level-2, either ZEN or UBZ. zg

I was recently banned from playing at the only casino I can go to until I turn 21, which is in about a month. So now I have some time to work on upgrading to level 2.

I am going to order UBZ as well as attempt to learn ZEN and will decide which I would rather play. I am hoping to learn ZEN for the added power, and I only need to learn one set of indices.

Zg, can you give me some good resources for learning ZEN? If there is a book specifically for it let me know as well.

I am also still looking for a good resource to learn how to TC convert. If anyone has anything let me know. For now I will just have to practice estimating remaining decks on my own.

Blackbelt - you already have. As for TC - Blackbelt shows more ways to do it than any other.

BUT Blackbelt now provides ZEN in 1/4D TC. ZEN can be learned in 1D TC mode, or 1/2D or even 1/3D variations. Study the theory of TC adjustment and then you can decide if 1/4D, 1/2D, or 1D TC works best for you, before you commit to the indices.

As for UBZ, its just as strong as ZEN. zg

After I posted I realized I should have checked Blackbelt since I skipped the TC section since I was using KO.

Do you use the "true index" and "true shoe" methods?

I dont know that much about TC conversions yet. What are the advantages and disadvantages of using 1/4 TC vs using 1/2D or 1D TC?

Are they close enough in strength that it doesn't matter which system to use? UBZ would be much easier to learn for me. BUT, even though it will be a pain for me to learn to TC convert, it might make it easier for me in the long run since I wont have to deal with different indices for different games. If I could learn ZEN then I wouldn't need to learn anything else. If I go with UBZ then I might have to end up learning new indices if I play games with different number of decks.

If you can do the simple division or multiplication that TC requires - QUICKLY AND ACCURATELY - then you should learn the bal'd count.

Snyder calls his 1/4D TC "true-edge" and he makes a good case for it... BUT choosing 1D, 1/2D, 1/3D, or 1/4D, or even 2D (Renzey) TC-adjustment is simply personal preference - and then you learn the indices that go with.

If the TC-adjust is not going to be quick and easy for you then you stay unbal'd. If you mostly play 6D and 2D you can probably create (sim) a composite index set that will for for both games.

You strike me as someone who can do the TC with little effort. zg

Use full or half deck for TC division. Quarter-deck is a disaster if you don't bet on non-integer counts - and very few people do.

What TC adjustment do you personally use?

Let's see if I get this. If I am using 1/2D TC then I take the running count divided by the # of remaining half decks or # of remaining decks X 2. If I use 1D TC I would simply take the RC divided by the # of remaining decks. Is that correct?

Is there any difference in accuracy between 1/2D TC and 1D TC, or any other number of deck TC?

I use 1D TC

1/2D TC = RC/1/2Ds, etc.

There is NO difference in accuracy when done correctly. zg

So the only difference would be that I need different index numbers than listed in Blackbelt? Could you give me a list of all the indices that you use? What grauity scale do you use for your index numbers? It would be helpful if you could give me a list of the indices you use, with the rounded numbers that you use for them as well.

Start with the ZG Interview for some of that. Also, run "search forums" for ZEN indices. Also, you can simply take the 1/4D indices and multiply them x4 which will produce ROUNDED indices. Many ways to go about it... of course the best way to do it is with QFIT CV. zg

Is CV Casino Verite? I have always depended on others for computer sims so I dont know what I am doing in that area. How would you go about running a sim to determine indices? I am going to order the program very soon.

I was also wondering, does CV allow you to practice the ZEN count? That would be one way for me to check my accuracy on my TC conversions and see if I am betting properly. I am basically looking for a program that I can play the ZEN count with, and have it let me know when I have made a playing or betting error.

Also I would appreciate any tips on deck estimation and doing TC conversions. It's obviously no problem to divide by a whole number, but does anyone have any tricks for dividing by numbers like 3.5, 1.5, .75, etc?

I've already asked a ton of questions, but since I am learning a new system I will have lots more, so thanks for all the help!