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Old July 21st, 2006, 05:08 PM
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How much will these enhanced payoffs add to the ER?

Suited Blackjacks pay 2 to 1.
Three sevens pays 3 to 2.
A 6-7-8 pays 3 to 2.

I will assume a winning hand is needed to collect.



Suited BJ every 85 hands equates to an extra half unit payed, about .59%?

But what about changing from basic strategy for the other two payoffs? And what about the added ER? Any clues?

Assume two deck, Double on Any, Double after Split for the base game.
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Old August 2nd, 2006, 08:34 PM
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Rough estimates:
-0.47% = Base Game
+0.57% = Suited BJ
+0.04% = 777 pays 3:2
+0.28% = 678 pays 3:2
+0.38% = Total

The basic strategy changes are listed here:

http://wizardofodds.com/blackjack/appendix11.html

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Old August 2nd, 2006, 08:57 PM
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Is this one of those Happy Hour promotions?
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Old August 4th, 2006, 03:25 PM
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On a similar note, does anyone know where to find the house advantage gained when players are not allowed to double down at all? I couldnt find it on WoO or anywhere else. A casino rep is telling me it is 1.5-1.6%, but this seems to low to me? Any thoughts/numbers?
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Old August 4th, 2006, 03:36 PM
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On a similar note, does anyone know where to find the house advantage gained when players are not allowed to double down at all? I couldnt find it on WoO or anywhere else. A casino rep is telling me it is 1.5-1.6%, but this seems to low to me? Any thoughts/numbers?
That sounds about right

Here are some stats if you are not allowed to double down on certain hands

all softs hands= .1
hard 9= .1
hard 10= .5
hard 11= .8
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Old August 7th, 2006, 05:54 PM
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There was some signage in the Pioneer, Laughlin about an August BJ promo...4-8am, 10am-2pm Mon-Friday $50 max bet.

Frankly, I don't even know what they deal anymore.
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Old August 23rd, 2006, 10:19 PM
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How much will these enhanced payoffs add to the ER?

Suited Blackjacks pay 2 to 1.
Three sevens pays 3 to 2.
A 6-7-8 pays 3 to 2.

I will assume a winning hand is needed to collect.



Suited BJ every 85 hands equates to an extra half unit payed, about .59%?

But what about changing from basic strategy for the other two payoffs? And what about the added ER? Any clues?

Assume two deck, Double on Any, Double after Split for the base game.
For the latter two bonuses there isn't any change in strategy. The added EV is only about 0.08%. It's much less than the normal payoffs because you said you're assuming that you have to win the hand - the Wizard's values assume the hand continues as a 21 which is a greater bonus than just having the hand stop.

On the other note the EV loss from no doubling at all compared to DOA/DAS for 2D is the 1.6% mentioned.

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