Local Casino House Rule Splitting ACES

[Neo]

The local casino here has a rule I haven't run into before and can't figure out the strategy adjustment, if any, I should make for it.

The rules are basic: No surrender, insurance 2:1, Original Bet Only, hit's soft 17. Double Down any two cards. Double after split allowed.

Now splitting has some specific rules. Pairs you can only split three times. This RARELY happens, (and has never happened to me) so I'm not too worried about it.

But if you split ACES, each ace gets one card sideways. So you can't take hits or double down after splitting aces --and of course you can't split again if you catch another ace. (It sucks to loose your bet because of a SOFT 12. they don't even put soft 12 in BJ calculations, cause you're not supposed to have.)

Sometimes I win when I split aces, and sometimes I loose. But the very times it has happened is not enough of a "sampling" to make a decision. I'm interested in the math/probabiilities. For example if the dealer is showing a 6, I'm sure I'll be fine. but when showing a ten, there's a ggood chance I could loose two bet's instead of one.

So does the addage; "Always split aces" apply with this specific rule?

Thanks for any answers or links to other pages explaining this.

[shadroch]

Thats a very common rule in Las Vegas.

[ScottH]

Originally Posted by Neo

The local casino here has a rule I haven't run into before and can't figure out the strategy adjustment, if any, I should make for it.

The rules are basic: No surrender, insurance 2:1, Original Bet Only, hit's soft 17. Double Down any two cards. Double after split allowed.

Now splitting has some specific rules. Pairs you can only split three times. This RARELY happens, (and has never happened to me) so I'm not too worried about it.

But if you split ACES, each ace gets one card sideways. So you can't take hits or double down after splitting aces --and of course you can't split again if you catch another ace. (It sucks to loose your bet because of a SOFT 12. they don't even put soft 12 in BJ calculations, cause you're not supposed to have.)

Sometimes I win when I split aces, and sometimes I loose. But the very times it has happened is not enough of a "sampling" to make a decision. I'm interested in the math/probabiilities. For example if the dealer is showing a 6, I'm sure I'll be fine. but when showing a ten, there's a ggood chance I could loose two bet's instead of one.

So does the addage; "Always split aces" apply with this specific rule?

Thanks for any answers or links to other pages explaining this.

Like Shadroch said, not being able to resplit aces is a common rule. Regardless of whether or not you can resplit aces, you still ALWAYS split them.

[shadroch]

Why do people almost always double down on eleven,yet hesitate to split Aces,when it gives you two elevens?

[ScottH]

Originally Posted by shadroch

Why do people almost always double down on eleven,yet hesitate to split Aces,when it gives you two elevens?

In my limited experience, I have only seen one person NOT split them. I think most people know to split aces, but maybe more people know to double 11 than to split aces.

[Neo]

Originally Posted by shadroch

Why do people almost always double down on eleven,yet hesitate to split Aces,when it gives you two elevens?

Pefect-PERFECT reply!! It makes so much sense now. I guess I just got nervous when I ran into this "new rule" But then I went to the other casinos in town and they've incorporated it also. So i guess it's just the way it's gonna be.

Thanks for those little slap upside my head back into common sense land

[ihate17]

You are better off with those 2 elevens, even if you can not resplit or hit again. Very very often you will just land up with a push by hitting a big card and a small one but play enough of these you will have more cases where you win both than cases where you lose both.

Resplitting aces. In the MGM a year ago (you can resplit aces to 4 hands), I was dealt 7 straight aces. So using hard totals, I landed up with 4 hands, they were 2,2,2 and (last ace hit a big 5) 6, or four hands that together added up to a whopping total of 12. I might have called this a complete waist of aces except for the fact that the dealer busted.

ihate17

[TinaSparx]

In our Casino you can re split aces, no problem, but you only then get one card.

I saw someone last night NOT split them, and I just couldnt understand why.

Still, theres lots of things in this world, (Black Jack world and real world!) that I don't yet understand, but im getting there!

Love, Tina

[Mikeaber]

At the casino I play at most often, you cannot resplit Aces. Even so, it's best to split them. I look at it as a defensive play....turn a bad 2 or 12 into what you hope will be at least one winning 21 and probably a losing hand on the other for a "push".

[bahoozle]

Just returned from LV. Caught several AA pairs over the course of 4 days. Was a win/loss on most of the splits for a push, which beats losing any day. Did manage a nice split with a large bet and a dealer bust.:D