Help me with these terms

[BBjoe]

I'm still learning but have seen these terms pop up a lot. What do they mean? Is there a quick and easy index of definitions somewhere that could explain these?

wonging
Illustrious 18 index
hand interaction
shuffletracking
cut card placement
sequencing

Thanks guys!

[Sonny]

Wonging - Counting cards from behind the table without playing. When the odds turn in your favor you “Wong in” and start playing, then “Wong out” when the house regains the edge. It is a way to ensure that you never play at a disadvantage.

Illustrious 18 index - The 18 most profitable basic strategy departures. Often times card counters will deviate from basic strategy based on what cards have been dealt. One example is playing 16 vs. 10. If the player knows that there are a lot of high cards left in the deck they will stand because their chances of busting are higher than normal. Similarly, if there are mostly small cards left they will hit.

hand interaction - I’m actually not familiar with this term. Maybe it has something to do with covariance? Anyone?

shuffle tracking - This is a method of following certain groups of cards through the shuffle. This works best in shoe games where the dealers may use very simple shuffles in order to save time. An observant player may be able to see (or calculate) where certain cards end up after they are shuffled. They will then know where to cut the shoe and where the "good" and "bad" cards are.

cut card placement - This involved placing the cut card in a spot that will let you steer a certain card (or group of cards) to a certain position. You may be cutting an ace to yourself or steering a ten to bust the dealer.

Sequencing - This is another method of following certain cards through the shuffle. Typically you will have a certain “target” card (usually an ace) and you will memorize what cards are near it in the discard tray. After the shuffle you will look for those “key” cards. When you see them you will then know that the “target” card is about to come out.

-Sonny-

[ortango]

Cut card placement:
Cutting where you know there is an ace or 10 or a slug of aces or 10s to your advantage.

Read about Hand Interaction:
http://renzey.casinocitytimes.com/articles/6043.html

The rest you can find here:
http://www.dictionaryofgambling.com/...rms/blackjack/

Good luck, bud.

[dacium]

Hand Interaaction is awesome.

How many times do you see people not understanding basic stategy. Most splits are loosing ones, even more so if you let someone else take your split. the second split card, by playing bs, also returns positive EV. I even by tens of drunk players.

[Dyepaintball12]

That site said it can give you a 6% edge.

I am going to go out on a limb and say, it probably does not.

[ortango]

Last night I bought a guys hand. He had $120 out with Bj and was going to take even money. I bought his hand for $241 (even money +$1) and didn't take even money. It was at -2 TC. The dealer did not have it, and I got $300 for it.

Some would ask, why risk $121 for a $59 dollar win? Because there was less than %30 chance that the dealer had BJ. And 59 is almost 33% of $180, giving me 3% on the house.

[Sonny]

Originally Posted by dacium

Hand Interaaction is awesome.

James Grosjean calls it Scavenger Blackjack. It is a very effective technique but it can be tough to get away with in a casino, unless you're ZG!

http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/showthread.php?t=847

-Sonny-

[BBjoe]

Originally Posted by Sonny

James Grosjean calls it Scavenger Blackjack. It is a very effective technique but it can be tough to get away with in a casino, unless you're ZG!

http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/showthread.php?t=847

-Sonny-

So basically you offer to buy a players hand when he isn't playing his hand right?

[Sonny]

Originally Posted by BBjoe

So basically you offer to buy a players hand when he isn't playing his hand right?

You might be buying their hand, helping them split or double, taking insurance for them, or even buying their surrender. Here is Grosjean's article about it:

http://www.blackjackforumonline.com/...vengerbjfo.pdf

-Sonny-

[EasyRhino]

I'm guessing the verb "wong" is attributed to Stanford Wong? Did he invent the concept?

Also, what about "ploppie" (or "ploppy"?). I get from context that it's just your average gambling doofus who plays with little concept of strategy, and is often generous with bad advice. And it's wonderfully descriptive-sounding, but where the heck does it come from?