Let It Ride promo.

[ScottH]

There is a Let It Ride promotion where one of the bets pay double. It is the third bet called "$". Does anyone know the edge with this is? What would my BS be? I'll have one day to play in this promo next Saturday so I appreciate any comments.

[Automatic Monkey]

http://wizardofodds.com/letitride

Assuming the $ bet is bet #3, and the return on that bet is doubled, it should give a player edge of over 3%.

[ScottH]

I see that you dont want to bet more than the maximum payout/3000. The max payout is 25,000 and the table max is 25. The most I should bet is 25000/3000, or 8.33. Should I ignore this rule because of the double payout?

Would playing this game heads up be better than playing with 5 others at a 3-card poker promo where the play bet pays double?

[Automatic Monkey]

Originally Posted by ScottH

I see that you dont want to bet more than the maximum payout/3000. The max payout is 25,000 and the table max is 25. The most I should bet is 25000/3000, or 8.33. Should I ignore this rule because of the double payout?

Would playing this game heads up be better than playing with 5 others at a 3-card poker promo where the play bet pays double?

Probably not, assuming you have a decent paytable for the 3CP. 3CP also goes a bit quicker so you'll get more hands in per hour. Lower variance too.

[ScottH]

Originally Posted by Automatic Monkey

Probably not, assuming you have a decent paytable for the 3CP. 3CP also goes a bit quicker so you'll get more hands in per hour. Lower variance too.

I find it hard to believe that play is slower in Let it Ride. With a full table of 3-card poker the dealer is constantly counting out quarters for people, figuring out how much to pay, etc. I found it to be a really slow and boring game. But I've never played Let It Ride, but I assumed it would be faster, or probably about the same speed.

The 3CP game pays these payout on the ante: straight is 1-1, 3 of a kind is 4-1, and straight flush is 5-1. Is this considered a "good payout table"?

[shadroch]

Thats normal. What you want to avoid are pair plus tables where a flush pays 3-1.
Full payout is pair 1-1,flush 4-1,straight 6-1,three of a kind 30-1,straight flush 40-1
Lesser tables usually just short-change the flush to 3-1.Although,I've heard of places that pay 25-1 on trips and 50-1 on the SF.

[Cass]

Originally Posted by ScottH

There is a Let It Ride promotion where one of the bets pay double. It is the third bet called "$". Does anyone know the edge with this is? What would my BS be? I'll have one day to play in this promo next Saturday so I appreciate any comments.

Last night I went down to the casino to play the promo. I went and looked at the table and saw it was completely full. I decided it wasn't worth waiting for or playing if the pace of play was going to be that slow. My friend went and cashed out his comps and I sat at a slot machine for about 5-10 minutes waiting for him. I decided to walk over to the game and check things out. As I walked up the pit boss got off the phone, and informed everyone that the game was now closed. Everyone was pissed. She got another phone call then turned and told the players that the game would still be open but there wasnt going to be the promo for the rest of the day. The reason was that they had paid out too much for the day. As I was standing a few feet from the table I overheard her talking to one of the patrons. She said, "you know why its because of those two players there, they took too much of the money." So apparently they closed the table so i couldnt play, or else it was just a coincidence. I dont think I will be going back to this place for awhile. Overall I've won over 16k in the last two weeks on this game.

[Cass]

Originally Posted by ScottH

I see that you dont want to bet more than the maximum payout/3000. The max payout is 25,000 and the table max is 25. The most I should bet is 25000/3000, or 8.33. Should I ignore this rule because of the double payout?

Would playing this game heads up be better than playing with 5 others at a 3-card poker promo where the play bet pays double?

In order to get as much money as possible you would have to play max bet. Also I know before the game did not pay double on the Royal flush. The variance would be huge. I estimate the three card poker game to have a 10% edge. If you are still going to try to go play you guys should go down friday morning and try to beat the crowd.

[Automatic Monkey]

Originally Posted by Cass

Last night I went down to the casino to play the promo. I went and looked at the table and saw it was completely full. I decided it wasn't worth waiting for or playing if the pace of play was going to be that slow. My friend went and cashed out his comps and I sat at a slot machine for about 5-10 minutes waiting for him. I decided to walk over to the game and check things out. As I walked up the pit boss got off the phone, and informed everyone that the game was now closed. Everyone was pissed. She got another phone call then turned and told the players that the game would still be open but there wasnt going to be the promo for the rest of the day. The reason was that they had paid out too much for the day. As I was standing a few feet from the table I overheard her talking to one of the patrons. She said, "you know why its because of those two players there, they took too much of the money." So apparently they closed the table so i couldnt play, or else it was just a coincidence. I dont think I will be going back to this place for awhile. Overall I've won over 16k in the last two weeks on this game.

You want to be very careful about discussing ongoing operations in a public forum. Talking about adventures from 6 months ago is fine. (Usually)

The reason is a lot of unskilled and unwise peple read these sites and you never know what some yokel is going to say or do when he walks into the casino. He could walk up to a pit boss and say "Hey is this the game I read about on blackjackinfo.com where you can make a lot of money as long as you open with Q-6 and don't play the Pair Plus?"

After that, anyone fully exploiting the game could be marked as an AP, particularly if they don't have established "gambler" credentials in that store.

[sagefr0g]

Originally Posted by Automatic Monkey

You want to be very careful about discussing ongoing operations in a public forum. Talking about adventures from 6 months ago is fine. (Usually)

The reason is a lot of unskilled and unwise peple read these sites and you never know what some yokel is going to say or do when he walks into the casino. He could walk up to a pit boss and say "Hey is this the game I read about on blackjackinfo.com where you can make a lot of money as long as you open with Q-6 and don't play the Pair Plus?"

After that, anyone fully exploiting the game could be marked as an AP, particularly if they don't have established "gambler" credentials in that store.

i was thinking the same thing when reading the post. i love to share stories but you got to be careful. you never know who could be reading these post's. perhaps a dealer, pit critter or just some player that might remmember the circumstances and put two and two together. result could be getting you cover blown ect.

best regards,
mr fr0g :D