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August 31st, 2006, 12:00 AM
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supplements?
anyone take any dietary mind supps to help with concentration before going to the casino? grap seed extract is soposed to be a good one or caffine etc etc
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August 31st, 2006, 08:02 AM
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anyone take any dietary mind supps to help with concentration before going to the casino? grap seed extract is soposed to be a good one or caffine etc etc
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3145223.stm
I think creatine is just a little bit more powerful than graps.
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August 31st, 2006, 11:45 AM
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I use a lot of vitamins and supplements.
(matcha green tea, deer velvet)
A good nights sleep, if you sleep at night.
personally, I am at my best in the morning and the afternoon.
My eyes get tired in the evening after travel. I rarely play blackjack in the evening.
soooo, know yourself, and what works for you. of course ask your doctor before trying some of the stuff on the market.
try Dr. Weil's vitamin advisor
http://www.drweil.com/u/Home/index.html
save your strength from the gold mine!
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August 31st, 2006, 01:22 PM
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Interesting article, first time hearing that it helps other than for lifting. Good lifting supplement :D
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August 31st, 2006, 02:02 PM
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Interesting article, first time hearing that it helps other than for lifting. Good lifting supplement :D
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yeah usaly just gives me the shits.. taking no shotgun right now seems to work alright. there is some actualy supps out there just for memory/concentration . ridialin (sp?) is the best from what i hear.
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August 31st, 2006, 02:32 PM
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Ridalin helps you focus. I would not recommend getting it just for playing blackjack though. You also need a prescription
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August 31st, 2006, 03:13 PM
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anyone take any dietary mind supps to help with concentration before going to the casino? grap seed extract is soposed to be a good one or caffine etc etc
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Vinpocetine is an alkaloid synthesized from vincamine, a natural compound extracted from the leaves of periwinkle (Vinca minor L) which was first developed in Europe over 20 years ago.
http://organicpharmacy.org/products/...ine/SKU:VI6-pe
New Zealand Deer Antler Velvet Extract
strength-endurance-recovery-HGH-aphrodisiac-anti aging-improve memory-boost immunity - LipoSpray is carefully derived from a proprietary Cold-Pressed extract of New Zealand Dear Velvet (Cervi Parvum Cornu)
http://www.biosynergy.com/IGF.htm
SMART DRUGS 2 - THE NEXT GENERATION
by Ward Dean, John Morgenthaler and Steven Fowkes
Sceptics about nootropics ("smart drugs") are unwitting victims of the so-called Panglossian paradigm of evolution. They believe that our cognitive architecture has been so fine-honed by natural selection that any tinkering with such a wonderfully all-adaptive suite of mechanisms is bound to do more harm than good. Certainly the notion that merely popping a pill could make you brighter sounds implausible. It sounds like the sort of journalistic excess that sits more comfortably in the pages of Fortean Times than any scholarly journal of repute.
Yet as Dean, Morgenthaler and Fowkes' (hereafter "DMF") book attests, the debunkers are wrong. On the one hand, numerous agents with anticholinergic properties are essentially dumb drugs. They impair memory, alertness, verbal facility and creative thought. Conversely, a variety of cholinergic drugs and nutrients, which form a large part of the smart-chemist's arsenal, can subtly but significantly enhance cognitive performance on a whole range of tests. This holds true for victims of Alzheimer's Disease, who suffer in particular from a progressive and disproportionate loss of cholinergic neurons. Yet, potentially at least, cognitive enhancers can aid non-demented people too. Members of the "normally" ageing population can benefit from an increased availability of acetylcholine, improved blood-flow to the brain, increased ATP production and enhanced oxygen and glucose uptake. Most recently, research with ampakines, modulators of neurotrophin-regulating AMPA-type glutamate receptors, suggests that designer nootropics will soon deliver sharper intellectual performance even to healthy young adults.
...continued here - http://nootropics.com/
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November 11th, 2007, 04:33 AM
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its ritalin, not ridalin, but caffine, ritalin, cocaine, and other such drugs do improve focus and such things, but your so hyper and twitchy that you cant concentrate.. id say those types of drugs would help with doing 120 mph down the expressway weaving in and out of cars, and things like that.. overall tho, all those uppers make me feel like **** like im withdrawling or something.. i seem to be the only person who hates cocaine and caffine
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November 11th, 2007, 10:13 AM
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Good overview
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Originally Posted by zengrifter;16515
...continued here - [url
http://nootropics.com/[/url]
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People should be very careful about self-medicating with nootropics because of the potential for interacting with other meds. Even piracetam, which is widely considered safe, has a significant effect on blood plateletts, as do omega-3 fatty acids and many antioxidants. Good idea to spend time with detailed research and pay attention to your body. The National Library of Medicine has a web site(<a href="http://gateway.nlm.nih.gov/gw/Cmd">NLM<
a/> ) which provides medical abstracts and can help identify side effects. While mostly establishment, it also has literature from many botanical and alternative medical journals.
Grape seed extract is a very good antioxidant, but not likely to provide a big boost to brain function on an otherwise healthy person. Similarly the research on Actyl-L- carnitine (not carnitine, not L-carnitine) is more on preserving brain function or reversing age-related decline, but not on improving normal brain function.
While beta blockers MAY have an adverse effect on short term memory, they also can help override anxiety which is why they've been used by musicans and performers for some time to reduce "stage fright."
Finally, consuming simple sugars in combination with or following a protein-containing meal, causes an increase in serotonin which helps people fall asleep. Might be wise to skip that cake before heading to the pit in the evening.
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November 11th, 2007, 10:21 AM
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I take Ginkgo Biloba.
I also take Brewers Yeast and drink lots of green tea, both antioxidants.
I have been taking brewers yeast for about ten years now when I started bodybuilding. It cleans your blood out which allows it to be more efficient getting to your muscles when you are working out. I believe it helps your blood get to your brain when you are concentrating just as well.
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