Biloxi before and after Katrina?

[rdorange]

There has been a lot of discussion about the Gulf coast since Katrina. Most of these discussions focus on the current gaming conditions. Which are not that bad, BUT.... as shown in this article (from 2001)...

http://www.casino.com/blackjack/article.asp?id=329

the conditions for gaming pre-Katrina were definitely better. All the $1, $2 and $3 shoe games no longer exist. The DD pitch games for $5 and $10 are extinct.

Will these conditions ever return?
When will these conditions ever return?
Will these low min games just become a thing of the past. Once consumed by inflation...never to be returned?
Have the casinos seen that they can survive without them?
Is there even a remote chance that competition can prevail and these games can return?

[rdorange]

I still have several days/nights free in Biloxi for this month. I have made my plans to return next week. Made my reservations today for a three day trip. Still have enough to go again the last week of the month. Gotta see how this trip does before making eom plans.
I have already received some of November's coupon comps.
But, I am still waiting for the rest to arrive to see if the competition helps to improve things.

Any else get coupon comps by mail from Biloxi?
Notice any differences or improvements?

[rdorange]

Three days and nights just changed to four. decided to use one more nights worth of comps!

[rdorange]

Three trips ago I got murdered in Biloxi...
No need to drag it on, nor am I trying to share my missery.....
But this trip was worse.
We took a $1,600.00 bankroll for four days and lost the whole thing.
I had more winning sessions at DD BJ than losing sessions. The losing sessions at craps was what killed me. But I had a good time and that was what I went for. I bet we earned an incredible amount of comp time.

[rdorange]

avs21, in previous threads you mention going to IVC in Gulfport. I went this past week. They have a nice place. Small, but sufficient. I found the table gaming area to be bit small and crowded, but I was told that this is only temporary, as they are adding on a metal building that will more that double their current casino floor space. They had several shoe games that appeared to be eight decks. They had two SD games where BJ pays 6:5 with very limited splits and doubles and with no surrender. There was at least one DD game. It had a $25 min and had what I call good rules.
BJ pays 3:2, Dealer stands on 17, Double any two, Double after split, etc.
It was nice enough that I would return.

[avs21]

Originally Posted by rdorange

avs21, in previous threads you mention going to IVC in Gulfport. I went this past week. They have a nice place. Small, but sufficient. I found the table gaming area to be bit small and crowded, but I was told that this is only temporary, as they are adding on a metal building that will more that double their current casino floor space. They had several shoe games that appeared to be eight decks. They had two SD games where BJ pays 6:5 with very limited splits and doubles and with no surrender. There was at least one DD game. It had a $25 min and had what I call good rules.
BJ pays 3:2, Dealer stands on 17, Double any two, Double after split, etc.
It was nice enough that I would return.

Was it crappy pen like the majority of Biloxi DD games? Did they allow mid deck entry? Thank You for the reports it has been really helpful deciding wether or not to play in Biloxi area

[rdorange]

IVC had no mid deck entry on the/a SD game, but the dealer and the players offered to allow me in, not strictly enforced. The DD did offer mid deck. I just don't remember seeing it posted.
The penetration was not fantastic. The dealers cut free hand. Most of them cut by eye and cut off half the deck or a little less. The only casino that does not cut by eye was Beau Rivage. The dicard tray has a notch or groove cut on the side. After the "hand" shuffle the dealer places the (two) decks in the discard tray and puts the cutoff card in by rolling it through the groove, giving the exact same penetration every time. About a deck or a little less cut off once again.

[avs21]

Originally Posted by rdorange

IVC had no mid deck entry on the/a SD game, but the dealer and the players offered to allow me in, not strictly enforced. The DD did offer mid deck. I just don't remember seeing it posted.
The penetration was not fantastic. The dealers cut free hand. Most of them cut by eye and cut off half the deck or a little less. The only casino that does not cut by eye was Beau Rivage. The dicard tray has a notch or groove cut on the side. After the "hand" shuffle the dealer places the (two) decks in the discard tray and puts the cutoff card in by rolling it through the groove, giving the exact same penetration every time. About a deck or a little less cut off once again.

Sounds like best game so far with allowing Mid deck entry on DD game.:D

[squaredancer]

if you will think back the only game that was under $5.00 eas at the palace and president. i feel that low limit is gone forever and vages limits are coming and will stay. loe limit games.....$3.00 can be found in reno.

[rdorange]

I can still remember when Treasure Bay had $3.00 min double deck pitch, with all the "good rules". That was just before Katrina. They still have not re-opened their table games. Even though the number of casinos is not back up to what it was pre-Katrina, and the number of players that have returned has plateaued, it amazed me to see some of the casinos (Isle for example) dilute the rules of their blackjack games. They recently changed the double any two cards to only double 10 and 11, and some other changes that ruin the game. It would seem to me that they would want to stay competitive with the likes of Beau Rivage and others who have maintained the good rules for DD pitch. Not far down the road is Island View who I think has added DD pitch with $15.00 min. Not sure of the current rules and conditions there. I have not been in the area for several months. I am going this Thursday, Friday and Saturday. They beat me soooo bad last trip and cleaned out my bankroll. I have just replenished it and have decided to go back again and start over. I will let you know what games I find there now.