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September 15th, 2006, 04:05 PM
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Carl Jung: Psychologist or sorcerer?
Carl Jung: Psychologist or sorcerer?
by Marsha West
SierraTimes.com™
“Many Christian psychology professionals are only average pew warmers, who then practice secular psychology.” ~ Pastor Steven J. Cole
Psychiatrist Carl Gustav Jung changed the way we think about the human psyche. For those who have never heard of him, he was the foremost pioneer of dream analysis, which is the process of assigning meaning to dreams. In many ancient traditions dreams were considered to be messages from the gods.
Jung’s research asserts the concept of an impersonal or “collective unconscious” (a type of library containing everything ever known) present in each person’s unconscious. The inspiration came to Jung from contacting the spirit realm. Jung claimed that his spirit guide, Philemon (more on “it” later), was a source of information that gave him crucial insights. According to Don Matzat, “Jung theorized that all humanity, past and present, were connected on an unconscious plane. Therefore, deep within each individual was the collective wisdom of the ages, including all religious, mythical content."… Jung placed a "scientific" footing under occult phenomena and mystical experience. Jung was deeply involved in the occult and did his doctoral thesis on parapsychology. He also was interested in Catholic mysticism and conducted seminars on the teachings of Ignatius Loyola.
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September 15th, 2006, 05:51 PM
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If Burney’s assertion is correct, and the human race isn’t sinful, then the Bible is nothing more than myths and fables -- and Jesus was a nut job for declaring He was the Son of God who came into the world to die for the sins of all mankind. Jesus clearly taught that we are sinners, with a capital S, and “fall short of the glory of God.” Sin was the reason Jesus went to the cross. His death was payment for mankind’s sin debt. Thus He threw open the gates of heaven, and all who believe in Him will be reconciled to God. If it’s true that we are merely “Spiritual Beings having a human experience” as Burney claims, the Son of God would have had no reason to leave His throne in heaven and come to Earth. Which is Burney’s whole point! If we’re not sinners, we have no need of a Savior!
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Jesus was a nut job for declaring He was the Son of God who came into the world to die for the sins of all mankind.
Well, DUH!!!!
In short this, person's main point is that Jung is anti-Jesus and therefore Satan. as in -
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Burney’s approach to psychology might seem right for unbelievers, but it’s wrong for Bible believing Christians.
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Why was this crap posted, ZG?
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September 15th, 2006, 06:15 PM
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Jesus was a nut job for declaring He was the Son of God who came into the world to die for the sins of all mankind.
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IF there was even a historical Jesus, he did NOT make such a claim of exclusive divinity - that was the work of others who MYTHOLOGIZED him. Jesus would therefore be something akin to a great guru, avatar, or buddha, of which there have been MANY! zg
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September 15th, 2006, 06:22 PM
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Why was this crap posted, ZG?
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I didn't realize that it was a pro-Christian critque of Jung!  Here's some better ones. zg
Carl Jung From Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Jung
Carl Jung
July 26, 1875 - June 6, 1961
Swiss psychiatrist and founder of a neopsychoanalytic school of psychology, which he named Analytical Psychology. Though not the first to analyze dreams, his contributions to dream analysis are perhaps the most influential and certainly the most extensive. His approach to human psychology is unique in that he placed primary emphasis on understanding the human psyche by means of exploring the world of dreams, art, mythology, world religion and philosophy. Although he was a theoretical psychologist and practicing clinician for most of his life, his contributions lie in the humanties disciplines as well. (Ironically, Jungian ideas are seldom mentioned in college psychology courses while they are explored readily in literature, art, philosophy, and mythology courses.) Many key psychological concepts were originally proposed by Jung.
Jung founded analytic psychology, in some aspects a response to Sigmund Freud's psychoanalysis. Jung proposed and developed the concepts of the extroverted and introverted personality, archetypes, and the collective unconscious. His work has been influential in psychiatry and in the study of religion, literature, and related fields.
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September 16th, 2006, 12:56 AM
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Son of God
O don't think Jesus said he was the son of god. He used the old tesament phase that he was the son of man. Though meaning almost the same it was purposely meant to be ambiguous..
If the temple of god is within us or if you believe in universal intelligence then we can all say we are the son of god.
I prefer to think we are all terminals on the same peer-to-peer network - information age adaptation.
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September 16th, 2006, 09:30 AM
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O don't think Jesus said he was the son of god. He used the old tesament phase that he was the son of man. Though meaning almost the same it was purposely meant to be ambiguous..
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While the Tanakh uses the phrase "son of man" in relation to Hebrew Sages, prophets, etc this does not equate to "son of G-d." In Judaism G-d is without offspring or wife and therefore has no son. You must also note that the only time "son of man" is used is when G-d is speaking TO a person. Kinda his way of letting folks know that they are not his equal.
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September 16th, 2006, 09:41 AM
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IF there was even a historical Jesus,......be something akin to a great guru, avatar, or buddha, of which there have been MANY! zg
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Nah, he'd be a nut job. Not only did he break Jewish law repeatedly but he got upset if anyone mentioned it. Walking around telling folks that the religious laws given to their forefathers is meaningless, doesn't make one a great anything.
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September 16th, 2006, 02:54 PM
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Nah, he'd be a nut job. Not only did he break Jewish law repeatedly but he got upset if anyone mentioned it. Walking around telling folks that the religious laws given to their forefathers is meaningless, doesn't make one a great anything.
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You could better understand the avataric vision AFTER you ingest 500mcg of LSD. zg
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