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Old September 15th, 2006, 05:19 PM
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What kind of trouble can one get into for using a fake id to play blackjack if they are underage?
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Old September 15th, 2006, 06:09 PM
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Not much - same as if you went in a nightclub. BUT do NOT use counterfit, only 'novelty! zg
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Old September 16th, 2006, 12:42 AM
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Do these work for obtaining players cards or do the casinos access some id verification database? Do they check for novelty cards?

Have you used and of the ones that come up on google and would recommend?



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Not much - same as if you went in a nightclub. BUT do NOT use counterfit, only 'novelty! zg
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Old September 16th, 2006, 12:43 AM
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Not much - same as if you went in a nightclub. BUT do NOT use counterfit, only 'novelty! zg
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&h...lty+id&spell=1
By novelty ID I think he means one where you are not pretending to use a government issued ID, such as a driver's license.

I think you can get around that by spelling a word wrong, or changing the wording just slightly. Any thoughts on this zg, you have to know about this. I actually remember a post about this same subject.

But there is almost no chance of getting in trouble. If they find out your using a fake BEFORE you use it, you are simply turned away. If they try to ask for your ID after you have gambled, you can REFUSE to show them and just leave. Just go for it!
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Old September 16th, 2006, 05:23 AM
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In NJ,presenting fake ID at a casino is taken very seriously. If you are caught, you lose your drivers license until you are 21,you lose any state educational financial aid for three years,and can't get any state job for several years.And-if you hit a slot jackpot,the money is forfieted.
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Old September 16th, 2006, 02:14 PM
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In NJ,presenting fake ID at a casino is taken very seriously. If you are caught, you lose your drivers license until you are 21,you lose any state educational financial aid for three years,and can't get any state job for several years.And-if you hit a slot jackpot,the money is forfieted.
Yes, all the hysteria surrounding underaged drinking will be brought down on a person using fake ID for entering a casino even if they're not drinking. My recommendation is to spend your 18-21 years playing online and building your bankroll.

If you can't wait, your best bet is to avoid being carded in the first place. Try some grey hair dye, or walking with a cane.
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Old September 16th, 2006, 02:36 PM
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By novelty ID I think he means one where you are not pretending to use a government issued ID, such as a driver's license.

I think you can get around that by spelling a word wrong, or changing the wording just slightly. Any thoughts on this zg, you have to know about this. I actually remember a post about this same subject.
Yes they work fine - they can look very official but must not say exactly what a real one would say - so if you are capable with the software just make and laminate your own.

Say "Motor Services Vehicle" and on the back "Required to spread to two hands in all positive counts" etc. - clearly novelty. zg
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Old September 16th, 2006, 06:51 PM
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In NJ,presenting fake ID at a casino is taken very seriously. If you are caught, you lose your drivers license until you are 21,you lose any state educational financial aid for three years,and can't get any state job for several years.And-if you hit a slot jackpot,the money is forfieted.

If I used a "novelty id" in NJ could I get into any trouble?
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Old September 17th, 2006, 01:46 AM
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If I used a "novelty id" in NJ could I get into any trouble?
I would think that if you presented "novelty" id,you would be laughed at.If you are sitting at a slot machine and were accosted about your id,and handed a casino agent a fake id,I think you would be held until they determined who you were and how old you were.The trouble would be more for gambling illegally than for presenting fake ids. But thats just a guess.
Several years ago,a friend was escorted off the casino floor for not presenting his id when asked,and he was well over 21.
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Old September 17th, 2006, 10:06 AM
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It sounds to me like presenting a fake governnment issued ID is what will get you in the most trouble, not the underage gambling.

Shadroch said you'd probably get laughed at if you showed a casino a novelty ID while playing, but remember you dont have to show ID, and they can only detain you if they are accusing you of commiting a crime.
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