Table Tales

BAMA21

Well-Known Member
#1
In another thread on one of the boards here the subject of "atmosphere" came up as it relates to a blackjack table. Some prefer playing at a table that is quiet (or dry or cold) in terms of interaction between players and with the dealer. Others prefer a more party-like or social (or lose or open or relaxed) feeling. I tend to be somewhere in the middle. Anyway, I made a comment in that thread about an open atmosphere leaving more room for annoying behavior on the part of my tablemates. So I thought it might be interesting to ask others to share some of their more memorable experiences with others at a blackjack table.

I'll start with these:

I was playing on a cruise ship and opened a table late one evening. I was sitting in the center of the table; and this group of six or seven guys came in, splitting up and sitting on either side of me. They were all together, and had even played all together with our same dealer on a previous night. So there was a lot of "party" feel to the table. At some point, they started doing "the wave" whenever the dealer busted. Sitting in the middle of their wave, I had no choice but to join in or look like a real party pooper.

Another evening, on that same boat, I was playing head to head with a dealer who wasn't very talkative and couldn't speak English all that well. SO the mood at this table was somewhat quiet and somber. Then this other guy sits down with his wife; and he's trying to be something of a show off. He started in with ther dealer and would explain in great detail what his reasoning was behind every decision he made. I wanted so bad to just tell him to shut up and hit already.

I played at a table once in Las Vegas where the strangest thing happened. The dealer was winning so much that it actually became "entertaining" to lament how bad the table was.

I played with a drunk guy once who was being obnoxious to the dealer. When the guy called for a hit on a hard twenty, rather than asking if he was sure, the dealer just made some comment about "looking for the ace" and slapped down a bust card.

However, my most memorable and most annoying table tale is one of a young kid in Vegas who was supposedly on his first trip to a casino. He was loud, a little intoxicated, blowing smoke all over the place, and generally trying to draw attention to himself in everything he did. Whenever his turn came to cut, which seemed like all the time (single-deck game at a full table, so there was a lot of cutting), he had this whole routine he'd run through with the cut card before inserting it into the deck. While the dealer held out the deck and waited, the guy would first slowly run the cut card up each stack of his chips, from the table to the top of the stack. Then, he'd run the cut card up his bet and around on the table in his betting spot. Then he'd start at the top of the deck and run the card all the way to the bottom before finally putting it in. The first time, it was interesting, because it was different. But when it continued deck after deck, it got real old. Of course, when he saw that it attracted attention, especially when he saw some of us start to get annoyed, he just became that much slower and that much more dramatic about it.

I guess it takes all kinds.
 

Mikeaber

Well-Known Member
#2
Ready to play some at Plaza down on Fremont. I spot a table with three young ladies sitting at it and the dealer was one I was familiar with....enjoyable dealer. Ladies looked like they were having fun. I ask if they minded if I sat in for a while (the dealer knew my "while" would probalby be several hours!)

After sitting down for a few hands, it became obvious that these ladies didn't know a lot about Basic Strategy and would ask on the less obvious plays and I would tell them what BS dictated. We were having a good time, lots of talk and no sour grapes about loosing. Then two more women spoted the two open seats and plopped down. One (the one with the tongue piercing, tatoos and orange and green hair) was obviously charged up on something other than beer. Very obnoxious and very vulgar. The other was not much better. They were insulting the dealer terribly. Then the orange headed one said something derogatory at me. Can't remember what it was, but it blew the lid off....all three of the ladies I'd sat down with originally, actually stood up and offered to discuss the issue with the pierced woman out in the back alley! That got the Pit Boss involved and after listening to the details of the interaction from the dealer, calmed everyone down. It wasn't long after that that the two late comers left. As it turnes out, my original three tablemates were in town for a Karate Convention!
 
#3
One night, playing at my local casino in the Netherlands, the dealer keeps drawing 19s, 20s, 21s. I'm sitting at one end of a full table, and on third base is a rather dumb-looking guy. The table keeps losing, and apparently this guy's so fed up with it, he starts playing in a rather bizarre way. Against the dealer's 10 he decides to stand on a hard six. Six! That's a 4 and a 2. So the dealer looks at him, asks him whether he's sure (he was), and proceeds to draw an 8 for himself. Obviously, the table was very annoyed by this guy on third base, and the dealer (a rather tall, big, bald guy - actually a floor manager I believe, filling in for a dealer) responds to this by looking the guy right in the face and saying: "Next time you do that, you're outta here. There are some people here who do want to make some money!"
Of course, the guy played regularly after that.
 

Mikeaber

Well-Known Member
#4
Amazing Jimmy.....first that the dealer would even say anything like that! The guy was within the rules and can do whatever he wants with his cards...his money! I know it's frustrating to see someone do that, but in reality, it can't hurt you any more than it can help you. The thing is that the Dealer was out of line even if he was voicing the sentiments of others at the table.

But this is about "Table Experiences" and that certainly is one for the books!
 
#5
Am I tipping enough?

An interesting table story with a BIG QUESTION!

I was playing at a full table last week. Every one seemed to be having a good time. But I was having a rough night. I couldn't seem to win two hands in a row to save my life. An old guy two seats over, who was going "against the book", seemed to win every hand. He would stand on a 13 with the dealer showing a ten, and other strange moves. This old guy was not a card counter because he would make these moves with a negative count or a positive count, it didn't matter. No ryme or reason. He just kept on winning. His chip stack kept growing.

I was tired of loosing so I started to bet big. (I was steaming, tired of loosing and was trying to catch lighting in a bottle. All the wrong things to do.) I finally won three big hands in a row to get back to even. The old guy then says to me that I am going to have trouble looking at my self in the mirror to shave in the morning. I thought, and so did everyone else at the table, he was joking about my big bets. I started to laugh along with everyone else. The old guy then says that I should try tipping the dealer a bigger amount of my winnings. (Earlier in the day the old guy and I were sitting at a different table and he never tipped the dealer in over two hours.) The table then got very quiet, even the dealer stopped what she was doing. The old guy then starts to insult me, about what type of man I was, ect... This went on for thirty seconds or so. That was it! I invited the guy outside so I could shove his attitude straight up his a** (I know I should not have done this). I also told him to mind his own business. And if he didn't like my tipping he could tip for me. He didn't say anything else.

I think I tip a fair amount. I tip about $10 per hour, weather I am winning or lossing. I bet about $50 per hand. Am I tipping enough or am I being cheap? Any comments about your tipping or what you think of my tipping, please let me know.

Just Learning
 

Mikeaber

Well-Known Member
#6
JL....I don't go by any rules for gratuity. After all, it's token commerserate to the amount of gratitude you feel for those serving you....and the dealers are in the service business. If YOU feel your tips are fair, then they are fair. I just keep in mind that most of the dealers are making minimum wage and are banking on tokes for their real income, so if they are good dealers and please me, I tip them. But then, I play for entertainment at least as much as I do to get rich so there will probably be a wide variety of opinions on this.
 

BAMA21

Well-Known Member
#7
That old guy sounds like a real winner. Where was he sitting at the table? Could he have been a casino shill or in some sort of collusion with the dealer on those unorthadox plays?

As far as tipping goes, if you're at a full table and everybody is tipping $10 an hour, the dealer is doing pretty well. I think you had a good answer for the guy there, that he could tip for you if he doesn't like the way you tip.

TIpping is done all different ways. Some place bets for the dealer. Some just give the dealer a chip. Others wait until they color up and give a large tip at the end. I often sit at tables where nobody but me is tiping; and I've seen a lot of players who only tip when they win. (It sounds like your old guy might have been one who doesn't tip when he is losing and tips when he wins.) The problem with that is that it is often not the dealer's fault when you lose or to the dealer's credit when you win.

For me, it varies with conditions. I'll tip more if I am the only one at the table, or the only one tipping; and I have a tendency to tip a little more when I'm winning than when I'm losing, althugh I do tip both ways. It is really dependent upon the dealer and the attitude they have more than anything else. But on average, I probably tip one to two hands per hour. So If I'm playing at a base of $10 per hand, I'll tip $10 - $20 per hour. I normally also tip $20 or $30 when I leave, if it is someplace I am coming back to or a dealer I want to play with again.
 
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