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November 7th, 2006, 03:53 PM
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Thunder Valley and Cache Creek near Sacramento, CA
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Has anyone here in blackjackinfo.com gone to both TV and CC in Sacramento, CA before?
I know the rule is dealer must hit on soft17, double allow after split......
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November 7th, 2006, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by jtleon
Hi
Has anyone here in blackjackinfo.com gone to both TV and CC in Sacramento, CA before?
I know the rule is dealer must hit on soft17, double allow after split......
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jtleon I know both places well. DO NOT BOTHER with Thunder Vally as all tables use CSM. Cache Creek game is at least playable. Dh17 DA2 DAS ins 75%pen table limits $5 to $15.
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November 7th, 2006, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by nc-tom
jtleon I know both places well. DO NOT BOTHER with Thunder Vally as all tables use CSM. Cache Creek game is at least playable. Dh17 DA2 DAS ins 75%pen table limits $5 to $15.
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Thanks for the tip tom. I've been to each place once but don't remember conditions since I was a civilian at the time. I do remember that T.V. had CSMs and was packed to the gills, with white men and yellow men giving up the goods to the red man.
With my newfound skills I'll have to exact revenge on Cache Creek for that one time they took my $60 when I was 21 yrs old.
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November 8th, 2006, 10:11 AM
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Thanks for the tip tom. I've been to each place once but don't remember conditions since I was a civilian at the time. I do remember that T.V. had CSMs and was packed to the gills, with white men and yellow men giving up the goods to the red man.
With my newfound skills I'll have to exact revenge on Cache Creek for that one time they took my $60 when I was 21 yrs old. 
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I know what you mean ortango. I to have it in for Cache Creek those bast@#ds have kicked my tail my last 7 visits.  They are at the top of my take down list.
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November 9th, 2006, 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by nc-tom
jtleon I know both places well. DO NOT BOTHER with Thunder Vally as all tables use CSM. Cache Creek game is at least playable. Dh17 DA2 DAS ins 75%pen table limits $5 to $15.
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where do u live? i understand normally ppl dont visit thunder valley or cache creek if they live far away.
CSM...ya...but if we didn't do card counting, it doesnt matter right?
do u know how many decks were used in thunder valley? i don't see any writing there in their blackjack tables~ i guess they are all 6 decks.
thunder valley recently added 4 two-decks blackjack table.
h17 DA2(9,10,A only) DAS(9,10,A only) both cards dealt to players are face down. not using CSM....i didn't check the pen%.
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November 9th, 2006, 12:35 AM
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Thanks for the tip tom. I've been to each place once but don't remember conditions since I was a civilian at the time. I do remember that T.V. had CSMs and was packed to the gills, with white men and yellow men giving up the goods to the red man.
With my newfound skills I'll have to exact revenge on Cache Creek for that one time they took my $60 when I was 21 yrs old. 
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 worse for me....i have lost n * $60 to thunder valley, while n is >10
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November 9th, 2006, 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by nc-tom
I know what you mean ortango. I to have it in for Cache Creek those bast@#ds have kicked my tail my last 7 visits.  They are at the top of my take down list.
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i don't dare to try blackjack in cache creek due to my bad experience in TV
i saw some single deck blackjack tables there, but im didnt go close to check the details of the rule.
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November 9th, 2006, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by jtleon
where do u live? i understand normally ppl dont visit thunder valley or cache creek if they live far away.
CSM...ya...but if we didn't do card counting, it doesnt matter right?
do u know how many decks were used in thunder valley? i don't see any writing there in their blackjack tables~ i guess they are all 6 decks.
thunder valley recently added 4 two-decks blackjack table.
h17 DA2(9,10,A only) DAS(9,10,A only) both cards dealt to players are face down. not using CSM....i didn't check the pen%.
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Well that is interesting to hear about the 2 deck game at TV since it has been some time since I have been there. Was the 2 deck in the high roller pit, if it was that might have been why I missed it.Last time at TV it was all 6 deck CSM with $25 min. and you are right if you are not counting then the CSM dont matter much
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November 9th, 2006, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by jtleon
i don't dare to try blackjack in cache creek due to my bad experience in TV
i saw some single deck blackjack tables there, but im didnt go close to check the details of the rule.
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The single deck at CC are all 6-5 BJ. Should be avoided.Even though they have beaten up on me as of late the 6 deck game is still a better way to go than the 1 deck.just need to wong the games ( especially wong out) and have the bank roll to support your play.Did notice my last visit in the high roller area they had 2 deck games DA2 no DAS ins with about 60 pen and no mid shoe entry $50 min. still so so.
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November 10th, 2006, 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by nc-tom
Well that is interesting to hear about the 2 deck game at TV since it has been some time since I have been there. Was the 2 deck in the high roller pit, if it was that might have been why I missed it.Last time at TV it was all 6 deck CSM with $25 min. and you are right if you are not counting then the CSM dont matter much
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no, those 2 decks blacjack (4 tables) are all outside not in the high limit table area, TV has just added them in recent months, i didnt see them previously until my last visit. oh ya, they dont allow mid-shoe entry
Last edited by jtleon; November 10th, 2006 at 12:55 AM.
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