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November 14th, 2006, 05:29 AM
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True count
How is it possible for any counting system to be accurate without utilizing the true count?
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November 14th, 2006, 08:36 AM
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Because you are still tracking the relative high/low composition of the shoe. You are using an initial offset to "balance" the shoe but the RC is still giving a reasonably accurate estimation of the TC:
http://www.bjmath.com/bjmath/counting/unbalbal.htm
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November 14th, 2006, 08:56 AM
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hey i'm going counting for the second time shortly and am wondering if this kind of spread is a good idea...
TC <= 1 1 unit
TC = 2 2
3 3
4 5
>= 5 10
The main problem with my last counting experience i feel was not betting enough when the count was high, i feel this shld change that. btw my unit is $5.
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November 14th, 2006, 10:49 AM
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You really want to have your max bet at +4.
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November 14th, 2006, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by supercoolmancool
You really want to have your max bet at +4.
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wow, isn't that spread a little much? i thought mine was over the top, but going to my max bet on a tc of 4?
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November 14th, 2006, 07:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bluewhale
wow, isn't that spread a little much? i thought mine was over the top, but going to my max bet on a tc of 4?
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+4 true count is the only way to go. Seriously. That is what they say in KO. +4 KO is +4 TC and that is when you place your max bet.
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November 14th, 2006, 10:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bluewhale
wow, isn't that spread a little much? i thought mine was over the top, but going to my max bet on a tc of 4?
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I have to agree with supercoolmancool. I think it is recommended to have your max bet out at a TC of +4.
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November 15th, 2006, 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by ScottH
I have to agree with supercoolmancool. I think it is recommended to have your max bet out at a TC of +4.
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agreed here also. sort of. i'm planning on ramping my bets up as QFIT showed me that my ramp is too slow. my current max bet which i normally put out at TC=+5 will probably be at TC=+4 and then i'll increase my spread for my biggest bet at TC=+5 . still working on it though gotta simullate it.
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November 15th, 2006, 08:55 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by supercoolmancool
+4 true count is the only way to go. Seriously. That is what they say in KO. +4 KO is +4 TC and that is when you place your max bet.
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wow, really eh. btw, i'm using hi/lo not knockout and my max bet is 10 units so i tought i'd save that for the tc of 5, i guess not
i'm not really concerned about ror as by BR is at 10 grand and growing steadily right now (and with a unit of $5 i'm sure i have a VERY low RoR)
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November 15th, 2006, 09:04 AM
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So for a 1-10 or 1-12 spread, what would a good ramp look like? I had previously done something somewhat similar to the ramp mentioned above:
1 - 1
2 - 2
3 - 4
4 - 6
5 - 10-12 (no math here, just what i felt like  )
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