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Old November 14th, 2006, 05:47 AM
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im learning the K.O. System i have a few questions. so now i count the sevens as a +1? and using this count takes out the need to convert to True Count?

also do u start with the number that corresponds with the amount of decks in play?
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Old November 14th, 2006, 06:43 AM
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Hey Fresher

Yes to all your questions. If you do not have the book, I highly recommend you purchase it. Whatever counting system you choose, make practice a priority. And lots of it. The system will not matter if it is not second nature for you once you begin play at the casinos. This cannot be stressed enough.
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Old November 14th, 2006, 11:27 AM
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im learning the K.O. System i have a few questions. so now i count the sevens as a +1? and using this count takes out the need to convert to True Count?

also do u start with the number that corresponds with the amount of decks in play?
get the book and the software to practice at home.

book is around $17.95
software is around 29.95

i think they are worth that money.....i havent use KO in any casino yet....but their system is simple and good.

http://www.koblackjack.com/
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Old November 14th, 2006, 11:35 AM
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get the book and the software to practice at home.

book is around $17.95
software is around 29.95

i think they are worth that money.....i havent use KO in any casino yet....but their system is simple and good.

http://www.koblackjack.com/
Agreed, those 2 sources are both great and are well worth the money. They will save you a ton of time and will get you casino ready in no time.

When you get the software, you can even customize the game to your local games rules. And a message box will pop up if you make a mistake. It doesn't have great graphics or anything, but it does what it needs to do.
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Old November 14th, 2006, 12:12 PM
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The software is going to be replaced. Not sure exactly when.
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Old November 14th, 2006, 12:15 PM
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The KO blackjacksite also has an article on KO Rookiee, which really is the fundamental training-wheel version of KO. You can understand it enough to where you can do a little practice and get a feel for it.

If you like it, then you definitely want to buy the book. I forgot to buy it from this site, and grabbed a used copy for like $5 including shipping (sorry Ken). The book is a good read, and goes into more detail.

I personally haven't used the training software, but I'd probably be tempted to jump straight to something like Casino Verite (which I don't have either, but have tried the demo). It supports KO.

I've used KO in the casino for about... twenty or so sessions over a few months, and I like it. My counting skills still weak, and my math skills are weaker, so I really like the lack of mental division.
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Old November 20th, 2006, 12:58 PM
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me too, i think im weak on math mentally....so i only use KO :>
ko software only cost 27 while verite cost 90, even verite can use for different counting system, but it is not useful for me as i only need KO, so i go for the cheaper option, KO which cost only 27
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Old November 20th, 2006, 04:38 PM
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me too, i think im weak on math mentally....so i only use KO :>
ko software only cost 27 while verite cost 90, even verite can use for different counting system, but it is not useful for me as i only need KO, so i go for the cheaper option, KO which cost only 27
If you are definitely using KO and you don't want to spend too much money, that is a fine decision. The KO program is plenty good enough to get you up to speed.

If you ever have a few extra dollars to spend, then CV is a good decision as well. It has a TON of options to customize the playing experience to be just as it would be in the casino.

They are both great values IMO.
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Old November 20th, 2006, 05:08 PM
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If you ever have a few extra dollars to spend, then CV is a good decision as well. It has a TON of options to customize the playing experience to be just as it would be in the casino.
The rich play experience is NOT where its at - the DRILLS are where its at! zg
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Old November 20th, 2006, 11:14 PM
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The rich play experience is NOT where its at - the DRILLS are where its at! zg
I agree. In fact, I have ONLY used CV for the drills so far. I have never played any blackjack using CV, but I have used the deck estimation drill.
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