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Old November 17th, 2006, 05:40 PM
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Which unbalanced counting system is best for 4-8 decks?

The online casinos I use have 4-8 decks and have fair to good penetration but give no indication to how many cards are left, so I am left with choosing an unbalanced system. Without considering how hard or easy a system is, and if you had to pick one system, which system is best for 4-8 decks?

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Old November 17th, 2006, 05:49 PM
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Which unbalanced counting system is best for 4-8 decks?

The online casinos I use have 4-8 decks and have fair to good penetration but give no indication to how many cards are left, so I am left with choosing an unbalanced system. Without considering how hard or easy a system is, and if you had to pick one system, which system is best for 4-8 decks?


How do you know if the pen is good if youdont know how many cards are left?
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Old November 17th, 2006, 06:01 PM
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Why not just keep a side count of how many cards have been dealt? Better yet, just get one of those "clickers" that bouncers use. That way you could have a TC based on the exact number of cards that have been dealt.

As far as unbalanced counts go, Unbalanced Zen is the strongest that I've seen. But if you're playing online then you could use a calculator to get a somewhat more precise estimate.

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Old November 17th, 2006, 06:09 PM
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Which unbalanced counting system is best for 4-8 decks?

The online casinos I use have 4-8 decks and have fair to good penetration but give no indication to how many cards are left, so I am left with choosing an unbalanced system. Without considering how hard or easy a system is, and if you had to pick one system, which system is best for 4-8 decks?
Unless you're talking about online casinos with live dealers, then the vast majority of online casinos shuffle after every handing, making counting pointless. I do know that starluck/planetluck stated that they would play 20% of the shoe before shuffling, although there was no obvious indication that a shuffle had occured. Maybe a couple other casinos do similar, but I don't think counting will work anywhere.

Regardless, for real blackajck, I learned KO, and only play shoe games so far, and it works just fine. I discarded Red 7 as soon as I learned that I'd have to track colors.

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Old November 17th, 2006, 06:28 PM
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As with other casinos, the casinos I use state what their shuffling procedure is, which in my case is they shuffle 50-80% into the decks, depending upon the casino. I realize most casinos shuffle after every round, but why use those when there are some that do give solid penetration into the decks?

To get back to my original question, which unbalanced counting strategy is best for 4-8 decks?
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Old November 17th, 2006, 08:37 PM
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KO is solid IF it is not an online casino. You generally cannot count a online casino. Why would you trust an online casino anyways ?
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Old November 17th, 2006, 08:45 PM
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Thanks golfnut for the KO suggestion.
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Old November 18th, 2006, 12:29 AM
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If I was playing at such a mythical casino, I would use the most complicated counting system possible, and rig it up to some helper software.
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Old November 19th, 2006, 12:42 AM
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no way to do card counting in an online casino, if yes u could use your computer to perform card counting that is much more better than level 3 counting system
if in land-casino, 6-8 decks would be better to use level 1 counting system.
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