can this situation be counted?

[jdmengine]

8 decks, about 55 percent penetration and after every hand dealer takes a card or 2 and puts it in tray with dealt cards? this is at the GOLDEN PALACE CASINO live online dealer? (blackjack pays 3to2 dealer hits to 16 and stands on all 17's)

[Preston]

You could but the penetration is so poor the ability to count wouldn't be too useful. You'd be better off at a live casino.

[positiveEV]

If it was possible people would use a computer to scan that, so I guess Golden Palace Casino already took all the precautions to make sure people don't do so, else they would not offer this game.

[Automatic Monkey]

Originally Posted by jdmengine

8 decks, about 55 percent penetration and after every hand dealer takes a card or 2 and puts it in tray with dealt cards? this is at the GOLDEN PALACE CASINO live online dealer? (blackjack pays 3to2 dealer hits to 16 and stands on all 17's)

You have no way of knowing that's an honest game. In regular online gaming you have to trust the software company that the game cannot be rigged by the site operator, and with outfits like Playtech and Microgaming that's pretty trustworthy. One reason for offering a hand-dealt game would be to have an opportunity to get around the software and deal crooked blackjack.

[dpmonk2003]

Originally Posted by jdmengine

8 decks, about 55 percent penetration and after every hand dealer takes a card or 2 and puts it in tray with dealt cards? this is at the GOLDEN PALACE CASINO live online dealer? (blackjack pays 3to2 dealer hits to 16 and stands on all 17's)

Sounds pretty horrible to me. Even if it was a legit game. The fact that the dealer puts multiple unseen cards in the tray could really screw up your count fast.

[mdlbj]

Yeah it can be counted yet, add the discards to the pen. Its simple.... You should not play at this online casino.

[Kaiser]

It might be worth it if the first 104 cards out of the shoe are all babies.