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December 26th, 2006, 03:56 PM
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The Truth About the Jesus Myth -VIDEO
The Truth About the Jesus Myth
VIDEO 1-6 - http://youtube.com/watch?v=r9t9s94-J3Y
Jesus as myth
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_as_myth
“Every religion is true...when understood metaphorically.” - Joseph Campbell
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December 28th, 2006, 12:43 PM
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I would not normally reply to a post of this nature on any website but, this garbage warrants it. Jesus is no myth and is a legned. Don't put any faith in human beings only him. He is the way the truth and the light and only with faith in him and teachings will salvation occur. You can pick apart anything you want about his life,works and teachings back it up with all the findings research and facts that are available.Tear down all the churches persecute all the believers and lock us all up,go about your lives and live them by your rules and beliefs and still in the end the truth,way and the light will still prevail.The bible was meant to be followed with childlike faith, not to be analyzed and scrutinized the way it is today. If you don't believe then there is no point in dicussing him. If you don't want what he promised then so be it. I visited Las Vegas awhile back and a priest spoke a profound statement that to this day I believe is a truism. You can't force feed people religion or faith it comes from within the person. blkchpjim
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December 28th, 2006, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by blackchipjim
I would not normally reply to a post of this nature on any website but, this garbage warrants it. Jesus is no myth and is a legned. Don't put any faith in human beings only him. He is the way the truth and the light and only with faith in him and teachings will salvation occur. You can pick apart anything you want about his life,works and teachings back it up with all the findings research and facts that are available.Tear down all the churches persecute all the believers and lock us all up,go about your lives and live them by your rules and beliefs and still in the end the truth,way and the light will still prevail.The bible was meant to be followed with childlike faith, not to be analyzed and scrutinized the way it is today. If you don't believe then there is no point in dicussing him. If you don't want what he promised then so be it. I visited Las Vegas awhile back and a priest spoke a profound statement that to this day I believe is a truism. You can force feed people religion or faith it comes from within the person. blkchpjim
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>>"The bible was meant to be followed with childlike faith..."<
Those are strong words of faith... but how did you come by such faith?
And why should the Bible, of all books, be followed "child-like" when it is fraught with so much error? zg
Se also -
Koran or Bible - Who's Right About Jesus?
http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/show...t=christianity
Forbidden Secrets of Christianity
http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/show...t=christianity
20 Reasons to Abandon Christianity
http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/show...t=christianity
The Biggest Secret...
http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/show...t=christianity
Christianity's Darkest Secrets
http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/show...t=christianity
The Unholy Alliance -Christianity & The NWO
http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/show...t=christianity
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December 29th, 2006, 09:50 AM
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I came from faithful people that raised me to have blind faith first. I have seen what blind faith in the right things in life can accomplish. I do have a question for you if you care to answer. What are the odds of one man fulfilling all 47 propheises that were written about him. The odds were something like 160 trillion to one. He does His work through us who want him to. blkchpjim
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December 29th, 2006, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by blackchipjim
I came from faithful people that raised me to have blind faith first. I have seen what blind faith in the right things in life can accomplish. I do have a question for you if you care to answer. What are the odds of one man fulfilling all 47 propheises that were written about him. The odds were something like 160 trillion to one. He does His work through us who want him to. blkchpjim
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Agree and disagree. The important issue is faith (as opposed to beleif). Notwithstanding, you have no reliable means to know which prophesies Jesus fulfilled, or even IF Jesus is a true historical person. The Bible is wholly unreliable (no pun intended). zg
"Credo quia absurdum" ("I believe because it is absurd")
-- Tertullian (De Carne Christi)
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December 29th, 2006, 08:20 PM
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The Origins of Christianity and the Quest for the Historical Jesus Christ
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It is evident that there was no single historical person upon whom the Christian religion was founded, and that "Jesus Christ" is a compilation of legends, heroes, gods and godmen. There is not adequate room here to go into detail about each god or godman that contributed to the formation of the Jewish Jesus character; suffice it to say that there is plenty of documentation to show that this issue is not a question of "faith" or "belief." The truth is that during the era this character supposedly lived there was an extensive library at Alexandria and an incredibly nimble brotherhood network that stretched from Europe to China, and this information network had access to numerous manuscripts that told the same narrative portrayed in the New Testament with different place names and ethnicity for the characters. In actuality, the legend of Jesus nearly identically parallels the story of Krishna, for example, even in detail, as was presented by noted mythologist and scholar Gerald Massey over 100 years ago, as well as by Rev. Robert Taylor 160 years ago, among others.32 The Krishna tale as told in the Hindu Vedas has been dated to at least as far back as 1400 B.C.E.33 The same can be said of the well-woven Horus mythos, which also is practically identical, in detail, to the Jesus story, but which predates the Christian version by thousands of years.
The Major Players
Buddha
Although most people think of Buddha as being one person who lived around 500 B.C.E., like Jesus the character commonly portrayed as Buddha can also be demonstrated to be a compilation of godmen, legends and sayings of various holy men both preceding and succeeding the period attributed to the Buddha.37
The Buddha character has the following in common with the Christ figure:38
Buddha was born of the virgin Maya, who was considered the "Queen of Heaven."38a
He was of royal descent.
He crushed a serpent's head.
Sakyamuni Buddha had 12 disciples.38b
He performed miracles and wonders, healed the sick, fed 500 men from a "small basket of cakes," and walked on water.38c
He abolished idolatry, was a "sower of the word," and preached "the establishment of a kingdom of righteousness."38d
He taught chastity, temperance, tolerance, compassion, love, and the equality of all.
He was transfigured on a mount.
Sakya Buddha was crucified in a sin-atonement, suffered for three days in hell, and was resurrected.38e
He ascended to Nirvana or "heaven."
Buddha was considered the "Good Shepherd"39, the "Carpenter"40, the "Infinite and Everlasting."40a
He was called the "Savior of the World" and the "Light of the World."
Regarding the Buddhist influence on the gospel story, in 2003 Buddhist and Sanskrit scholar Dr. Christian Lindtner wrote the following:
"The Sanskrit manuscripts prove without a shadow of doubt:
"Everything that Jesus says or does was already said or done by the Buddha.
"Jesus, therefore, is a mere literary fiction.
"The Last Supper was the Last Supper of the Buddha.
"Baptism in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit was baptism in the name of the Buddha, the Dharma and the Samgha.
"All the miracles performed by Jesus had already been performed by the Buddha.
"The twelve disciples of Jesus were, in fact, the twelve disciples of the Buddha.
"It was king Gautama--not Jesus--who was crucified.
"It was Tathāgata--not Jesus--who was resurrected....
"There is nothing in the Gospels, no person, no event, that cannot be traced back to cognate persons, events or circumstances in the Buddhist gospels.
"...Jesus is a Buddha disguised as a new Jewish legislator, teacher, Messiah and king of Israel.
"The Gospels, forming the foundation of Christianity, are, therefore, typical Buddhist literature, fiction, designed for missionaries whose language was Greek.40b"
Concerning the "crucifixion" of Buddha, as related in a Buddhist text dating to the first century BCE (Samghabhedavastu/ Mahāparinirvāna sūtra), Ken Humphreys states:
"In this story of 'Gautama, a holy man' our hero is wrongfully condemned to die on the cross for murdering the courtesan Bhadra. Gautama is impaled on a cross, and his mentor Krishna Dvapayana visits him and enters into a long dialogue, at the end of which Gautama dies at the place of skulls after engendering two offspring - the progenitors of the Ikshavaku Dynasty."
Humphreys further relates that "the dead Buddha is burned and it is the smoke of his corpse which rises - the true 'resurrection.'"
According to Dr. Burkhard Scherer, a "classical Philologist, Indologist and Lecturer in Religious Studies (Buddhist and Hindu Studies)" at Canterbury Christ Church University, the fact that there is "massive" Buddhist influence in the gospels has long been well known among the elite scholars. Says Dr. Scherer:
"...it is very important to draw attention on the fact that there is (massive) Buddhist influence in the Gospels....
"Since more than hundred years Buddhist influence in the Gospels has been known and acknowledged by scholars from both sides. Just recently, Duncan McDerret published his excellent The Bible and the Buddhist (Sardini, Bornato [Italy] 2001). With McDerret, I am convinced that there are many Buddhist narratives in the Gospels.40c"
Horus of Egypt
Horus
The stories of Jesus and Horus are very similar, with Horus even contributing the name of Jesus Christ. Horus and his once-and-future Father, Osiris, are frequently interchangeable in the mythos ("I and my Father are one").41 The legends of Horus go back thousands of years, and he shares the following in common with Jesus:
...COMPLETE HERE - http://www.truthbeknown.com/origins4.htm
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