lucky ladies? (getting total of 20 pays 4:1)

[felipej2]

Using a high/low system, when is it time to bet on getting a total of twenty? I thought I heard that it's when the true count is +3...

[Mikeaber]

I didn't see that exact game listed, but you can get a lot of good information on many of the side bets at http://wizardofodds.com/blackjack/bj...tml#royalmatch

[hopson77]

The ever-knowledgeable zengrifter has said that the LL side bet becomes profitable at a true count of +7 for Hi Lo. I look forward to making a few of these bets on my next trip to AC.

[zengrifter]

Originally Posted by hopson77

The ever-knowledgeable zengrifter has said that the LL side bet becomes profitable at a true count of +7 for Hi Lo. I look forward to making a few of these bets on my next trip to AC.

HiLo TC of +6 would be better.

Mike! What does Royal Match have to do with LLs??

Here's a link for LL HiLo analysis -
http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/show...t=lucky+ladies

zg

[zengrifter]

Originally Posted by XXX

Remember - try to bet as many others' LL spots as you can also! zg

Thanks for the help with the LL Zen, I thought I'd just let you know how it went. In the end I made about $500 on the game. I seemed to lose constantly at the start. This charity casino was open for 3 weeks then on the last night I killed the game. On one hand the count went to +20 (using KO) against six decks. I was throwing quarter chips at everyone not playing their LL. I won on four hands it was great the count was so high. Afterwards I looked up the edge at that count and I had a 23.18% advantage. Unfortunately I never hit anything above 9-1.

This charity casino was hilarious. Pen was 5.5/6, unfortunately the max bet was $25 which is usually my minimum bet. Wonged the whole time with another spotter. The place was filled with Asian ploppies and there was no heat whatsoever. I convinced a dealer to deal one more hand after the cut card came out. The shoes were clear see through plastic even in the front so when playing multiple hands we could control when the cut card would come out to get in an extra round and almost have the hole six decks delt out. It got to the point we would pass counts to each other across the casino by holding up our fingers with the count on it and verbally passing the count right at the tables. It was an interesting experience in my counting history. Anyways once again thanks for the help!

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[OMendoza]

I have modified my LL strategy after seeing the thread on this forum in which Eliot Jacobson posted a couple of systems. I am playing with a QhSC and am doing some other things to address this side bet more effectively, like establishing removal effects of each type of card to set up a "Lucky Ladies Correlation," or "LLC," and noting how indices are influenced by the number of cards remaining (hint: computing a different index for each quarter deck increment is revealing). I am also investigating the possibility of treating the QhSC as an "indicator count," with the initial count being set to zero and the appearance of either Qh bumping it to one without the second Qh affecting it. This allows certain approaches to the LL bet that would otherwise be unwieldy and doesn't lose much in the way of accuracy (the first LL out of the two-deck shoe is the one that really decreases the return of the bet).

Anyone who wants to compare notes with me is welcome to do so. I am a bit rusty mathematically, but I seem to be recalling my probability and statistics coursework pretty well, and it helps with this sort of thing.

[zengrifter]

Welcome Syph! zg

[OMendoza]

ZG:

Was your last post to this thread a response to me? What is a "Syph" and why are you calling me one?

O.M.

[Automatic Monkey]

Originally Posted by hopson77

The ever-knowledgeable zengrifter has said that the LL side bet becomes profitable at a true count of +7 for Hi Lo. I look forward to making a few of these bets on my next trip to AC.

Make sure you have the right information for the pay table there. There's a good pay table and a bad pay table. See if you can guess which one they deal in AC.

[dacium]

Grifters storys are always amazing...

wish i didnt live in austrlaia where we only have a couple of casinos and heat is on just for wonging on a $5 table.