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Old September 14th, 2005, 03:53 PM
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I was watching FEAR FACTOR last night and for those who don't watch on the reg, they are currently in LV and and the winner plays a hand of bj with half his/her winnings.

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as I watching I noticed that the table read that the dealer stays on all 17's!! I was in Vegas less than 2 weeks ago and I didn't care to check since casinos on the strip pretty much hit soft 17's.

In the event this is true I will more than likely be playing there when I return to Vegas in Dec. Downtown casino's (namely the Plaza) offers better % for the player but I don't care much for the atmosphere and I prefer the glitz and glamour of the strip casinos. Even though the % won't be as good as a the Plaza's DD (stands on all 17's also), I'll take my chances at Mandalay Bay and factor in the better surroundings to compansate going from 2 decks to 8 decks.
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Old September 14th, 2005, 05:19 PM
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Good luck to you Tony! The last time I was out there, I got my butt wiped at the Plaza but came out ahead playing the little single-deck game at El Cortez. Talk about "atmosphere" at El Cortez <LOL> But, it is much better than it used to be though it has a little bit to go to get up to the glitz at Mandalay Bay!
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Old September 14th, 2005, 07:41 PM
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Tony--I play at Mandalay pretty often, and yes, they do have a fair amount of tables that stand on soft 17. They allow doubling after splits, you can double on any 2 cards and also surrender. They have 6 deck shoes at most of these tables, but some have CSMs. Mostly, the lowest limit you'll find at these tables is $25. Sometimes you may get lucky and find $10 or $15 tables with these rules--you have to go during the day time though when it's not very crowded. I'm headed there this weekend! Good luck to you.
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Old September 14th, 2005, 09:01 PM
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That is the same game I get at Mohegan Sun. I've never played at Mandalay Bay, so maybe I'll check it out when they have the lower limits in place.

Soak up much of that El Cortez "atmosphere" and you'll wind up with something the doctor can't cure and Ajax won't take off.
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Old September 15th, 2005, 08:24 AM
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That is the same game I get at Mohegan Sun. I've never played at Mandalay Bay, so maybe I'll check it out when they have the lower limits in place.

Soak up much of that El Cortez "atmosphere" and you'll wind up with something the doctor can't cure and Ajax won't take off.
Actually, the physical state of El Cortez is not bad...not bad at all. They have been working on it diligently. My wife enjoyed it except for the walk down to it. Wouldn't recommend walking it at night without a bodyguard though.

No, the "atmosphere" is composed of the patrons there. Definitely not hi-rollers.
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Old September 15th, 2005, 03:40 PM
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have not been to vegas in a little over two years. I was not into blackjack seriously back then and only played craps at the sahara where I usually stay. but all this talk about good blackjack games downtown has me planning for a trip real soon. everyone talks about the patrons at the el cortez, if I can send my gf shopping for a few hours maybe I can play a good game of bj and check out the sleezy women? so please tell me a little of what I am missing in that dept.
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Old September 15th, 2005, 03:41 PM
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no offense to the ladies, but I do enjoy "eye candy" now and then.
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Old September 15th, 2005, 05:07 PM
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no offense to the ladies, but I do enjoy "eye candy" now and then.
Well, I sat at a table where a woman who looked homless was sitting. She had to be at least 70 years young.

I'm NOT knocking the El Cortez. I went down there twice during my last visit and really enjoyed it. They tell me though, that if you want "seediness" you simply must go to the Gold Coast (between El Cortez and Lady Luck). We didn't stop in there.
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Old September 15th, 2005, 06:12 PM
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I think Mike means the Gold Spike, not the Gold Coast.
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Old September 15th, 2005, 06:34 PM
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I joke about the atmosphere at the El Cortez; but it really wasn't that bad on the one visit I made. It was a little too smokey for me; but my real problem was the "sweat shop" attitude of the pit. They backed me down after a whopping $50 win on a whopping 1-5 spread at a nickle table; and I was not counting, as I don't know how. Not only that, but they were unnecessarially rude about it too. I just laugh at the customers there, because the guy who replaced me looked like a homeless Vietnam vet; and was carrying an oxygen tank with him. He was about the most "seedy" looking guy I saw there.
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