Best Player Advantage Rules

[mdw]

It would be nice to know in advance of a trip to Las Vegas, which casinos have the better player advantage rules. It must change from time to time. Any information would always be appreciated. Post away. Thanks

[KenSmith]

I'm planning on doing a lot of scouting and reporting on the Las Vegas casinos when I'm there in May. Meanwhile, anyone feel free to pass along current conditions.

Also, here's a free resource that is helpful though often out of date:
http://www.skister.com/bj/

The best games I'm aware of at the moment in Las Vegas are downtown, with excellent double-deck games available at the Plaza and the Las Vegas Club.

[bubba22001]

Andy Lang comp'd me three days last week at the Plaza and the DD game pen was 60%, 3/2,DOA,DAS,S17...not what I would call a good game. Of course this could change daily, but it remained the same for my 3 day visit. I just stiffed him on the playing time and played at nugget...H17, LS,DOA,3/2, DAS and a 70% pen...good game as far as I'm concerned. I burnt that bridge but pick-up a future comp at the nugget. I'm not worried because the Plaza is a dump and easy to get rated if you are lucky enough to find a playable game during a downtown roadtrip.

Best, Bubba

[KenSmith]

Sounds like things have tightened up at the Plaza since my last report from there. No surprise really. Change is the only certainty in game conditions.

[bubba22001]

I believe things at the Plaza have tightened up since Crystal and his gang assumed control.

[Mackhack]

I would say downtown casinos have the best odds for you right now. I went lest weekend, 2 weeks ago, 4 weeks ago and 8 weeks ago to Vegas. A lot of tables have 8 decks and a very low penentration.

I decided do don't play on the strip anymore as long as the odds are so bad.

I talked to a cashier at the MGM Grand and he said that the odds are really going down for the players and he thinks that is only in the short run good for the casino, but in the long run not.

And that's right, why should I drive to Vegas only to gamble if I have so many Indian Reservations here in San Diego County.

[mdw]

Thank you Mack. We are flying out to Las Vegas this weekend for a week. Sounds like we need to head down town. My wife loves all of the casinos in vegas. So I am sure I will get dragged into each one. I plan to pay attention to what rules are where and try to post when I get back. We have a casino hear on the Seminole reservation, but no table games with the exception of poker. The slot machines are tied to some virtual bingo game going on. You must have bingo before your slot will pay out. Since it is the only game in town it is packed. I think they are trying to change the laws in Florida to accomodate table games. We have the casino cruises as well, but you need to plan around their schedule. I can see where in the long run the strip casinos may end up being penny wise and pound foolish. One of the shows on the satellite had an interesting statistic. Only about two percent of the visitors gamble that visit the mega casinos on the strip, but %80 percent of the visitors to vegas gamble on average 4 hours a day. Seems gamblers prefer a more intimate environment to play. Could this be the beginning of the end? Time will certainly tell. I appreciate your recent input.

[ILuv21]

I just got back from Vegas. I was attending a conference at the Rio. I was suprised to see so many people playing $25, $50 $ $100 games of 6/5 single deck. Those tables were packed. They didn't even offer Stand on All 17. The rules were HS17, DAS, DOA. I was there 4.5 days and there were only a few shoe games, with manual shuffle, but they were standard rules with decent penetration, 4.5 to 5 decks.

[Mikeaber]

I was at the Plaza 5-11 thru 15. Their game is about like it was back in January. The slot cut in the discard holder allows a little leeway in pen....60% to around 75%. I probably played 30 hours there over the 3 days and 4 nights there. Most of the time, we were getting the deeper pen. I was at a $5 table with most of the players playing the minimum except for a high roller who was betting the $2,000 table limit Sunday morning EARLY (and they knew this guy). I lost my butt.....but blame it on variance and too much beer, and "no", I wasn't the $2000 player <LOL>. Andy is comping me 3 nights at the end of June, so I'll probably go back.

Originally Posted by bubba22001

Andy Lang comp'd me three days last week at the Plaza and the DD game pen was 60%, 3/2,DOA,DAS,S17...not what I would call a good game. Of course this could change daily, but it remained the same for my 3 day visit. I just stiffed him on the playing time and played at nugget...H17, LS,DOA,3/2, DAS and a 70% pen...good game as far as I'm concerned. I burnt that bridge but pick-up a future comp at the nugget. I'm not worried because the Plaza is a dump and easy to get rated if you are lucky enough to find a playable game during a downtown roadtrip.

Best, Bubba

[JWeber]

I was in Vegas last week. I didn't play much, but all the single deck games are either 6:5 or 1:1, no matter where I went.