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Old March 12th, 2007, 11:11 PM
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Have there been experiences of dealer cheats in some casinos? Wanted to know if anyone has experienced dealers who can manipulate the cards and deal you the losing hands for the casino advantage.
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Old July 30th, 2007, 11:51 PM
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I think I was cheated at the Potawotami casino in Milwaukee Wi.

The dealer put a very strong bend in the corner of a ten card for some reason.

I was counting cards and starting to win money.

I believe many casinos cheat.
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Old July 31st, 2007, 08:53 AM
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The dealer put a very strong bend in the corner of a ten card for some reason.
How did the dealer use the bend to cheat you?

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I believe many casinos cheat.
Do you think it was the casino or just the dealer?

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Old July 31st, 2007, 11:57 AM
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I think I was cheated at the Potawotami casino in Milwaukee Wi.

The dealer put a very strong bend in the corner of a ten card for some reason.

I was counting cards and starting to win money.

I believe many casinos cheat.
It is irritating when you loose part of you bankroll to a cheating dealer! I have played a couple dealers I think cheated me.
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Old July 31st, 2007, 02:31 PM
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I dont know how they would use the bend but the dealer put it there for some reason. It could be to help clump all the tens together or as an aid when dealing seconds, I dont know.

If the dealer was cheating it would be to help the house.

I would think clumping the cards could be considered cheating because you are intervening to create a distribution of cards that is not random.
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Old July 31st, 2007, 02:51 PM
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If the dealer was cheating it would be to help the house.
Not necessarily. Probably the majority of cheating is done by dealers who are in it for themselves. Usually it involves a partner or a team of some sort on the other side of the tables. I doubt that any casino would purposely instruct their dealers to cheat the players in order to win a little more money.

If you notice a dealer bending or marking a card (probably to use as a break) then you should call over a pit boss. Tell him that one of the cards is bent and he will replace it right away. The last thing a pit boss wants is marked cards in a live game. After all, it would be just as easy for the players to use it to cheat with as the dealer.

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Old July 31st, 2007, 08:40 PM
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I spotted marked cards at a charity poker game at a church this last weekend. Someone had literally taken a pencil or something very similar and marked 2 low cards. It was weird, and very amateur.
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Old September 13th, 2008, 11:08 AM
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Never had a problem at Pottowannagiveme, played there last winter for bout 3 months.(friday evenings) Nothing but good times. Hows the expansion? heard they added DD for 25 ahand? rules? anyone?
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Old September 27th, 2008, 02:26 PM
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It is irritating when you loose part of you bankroll to a cheating dealer! I have played a couple dealers I think cheated me.
The only thing true in this statement is that "I THINK CHEATED ME." On the other hand I don't know if you are capable of thinking or just I think !
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Old September 27th, 2008, 02:27 PM
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I dont know how they would use the bend but the dealer put it there for some reason. It could be to help clump all the tens together or as an aid when dealing seconds, I dont know.

If the dealer was cheating it would be to help the house.

I would think clumping the cards could be considered cheating because you are intervening to create a distribution of cards that is not random.
You think the dealer gets paid on commission or profit sharing don't you ?
 

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