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March 26th, 2007, 09:16 PM
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Do you play anything besides blackjack?
Just curious...
For me, it's only blackjack. Once in a while, I'll throw a few bucks in one of the slots, but that's it.
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March 26th, 2007, 09:38 PM
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I play blackjack and poker. The two games that are beatable.
But sometimes after I've won a lot and need a break from counting or reading players I play a few carnival games. Particularly Carribean Stud and Roulette.
I refuse to play Let It Ride.
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March 26th, 2007, 09:59 PM
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I pretty much just play BJ and Spanish21.
I like Sp21 - lower HA than BJ, usually seats available and no one knows BS. Most people only care about their Match bet anyway and play their cards like regular BJ. The Match bet can be fun - seen many win a bunch on it. Kind a like a good slot machine with cards lol.
I'm not trying to beat the house on the 2-3 times a year I may get there. Just having fun hoping to drink enough to overcome the house edge. I'm pretty sure I usually succeed
3 card poker is ok - especially if u avoid the Pair Plus bet but the players will hate u for it.
Let It Ride does suck. Although I did see a guy win $6000 there with the minimum $10 bet. That was cool. They counted the cards and put them in a bag, put a glass lid over his chips and took him away.
If I could find a full pay Pick-em Poker game I'd play it but I never can find one.
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March 26th, 2007, 10:11 PM
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I play enough slots to get them to cover my rooms and board.Played at the right time and place,slots can be a positive expectation game.But its quite a bit of work.
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March 26th, 2007, 10:40 PM
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I play BJ, and almost all of the blackjack derivatives. Video poker too, for comps and cover.
And I can play 3-card, 4-card poker under the right conditions, pretty much any carnival game if I can get an edge. Sometimes I will buy in at craps and play a couple of hands to confound the BJ pit's accounting.
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March 26th, 2007, 10:56 PM
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Other than BJ
Before learning to count I was an avid craps player-strictly front/ back line with odds. Over the years I've done pretty well, but still probably about even +comps. Looking back now I realize that I'm over expected outcome for that game. I still play it to "gamble" though, since 6-8 hrs/ day counting becomes taxing, besides I still get the comps, get to drink and let loose while confusing the "man" up there.
Pai Gaw is also relaxing with little variance.
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March 26th, 2007, 11:05 PM
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I have been playing a little holdem on sit and go tables when I'm in between Blackjack sessions. Got to give the mind a break once in a while.
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March 27th, 2007, 12:17 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shadroch
I play enough slots to get them to cover my rooms and board.Played at the right time and place,slots can be a positive expectation game.But its quite a bit of work.
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What's the lowest house advantage slot game you can possibly find? Or can you even determine the exact EV on all machines? It seems hard with progressives and such.
Even if you could find a break-even slot, I imagine the variance has to be pretty wicked.
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March 27th, 2007, 12:21 AM
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If I can help it, no.
Just this weekend, I had a big blackjack win at a tiny joint, and felt an obligation to sit in front of a screen for a little while. Played some 10 cent VP. I don't really know how to play it, and I didn't really like it, and I still won $5.
Craps California style (card, no dice) is retarded. And real dice-shooting confuses and scares me.
In online casinos, I'll play whatever game I have to to clear a bonus. A while back, I found myself with a bunch of non-cashable money I needed to burn through, so I played a bunch of random games (let it ride, red dog, war).
I'd only learn Pai Gow to hit on cute asian girls. But the demographic for that game skews old.
I might want to play a little baccarat for the sheer retardation of it. Maybe I can start referring to it as "multi-card War" just to piss people off.
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March 27th, 2007, 01:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottH
What's the lowest house advantage slot game you can possibly find? Or can you even determine the exact EV on all machines? It seems hard with progressives and such.
Even if you could find a break-even slot, I imagine the variance has to be pretty wicked.
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I don't believe there is such a thing as a break-even machine.Its only when you factor in cashback,room,food and show comps that the games become fairly neutral.If you cycle $10,000 thru a machine that has a 4% edge on a consistant basis,you will end up with around $9600 each time.It can easily be that you lost your entire BR one trip,lost $700 next one,and won $3,000 another time. Yet if its done on a triple cashback day,you might get around $300 back.Factor in a free room for a day or two and a few meals and you may have a slight advantage.
But only if you only play when its a bonus situation. Either multiple cashback or multiple reward points.On a rare occasion you might hit a day that offers both.Today was such a day and I didn't bang it out as I should have.
Yes,Variance sux on a slot machine,which is why I choose to pocket my winnings today instead of trying to rack up some serious future comps.It will very likely cost me in the long run but cash in the pocket is always nice
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