Would you buy this Comp, No gamble.

[Mr. T]

In the casino ship where I frequent the Roulette game has 1 zero. So at times where I have to make up the points on my players card I would bet $350 on red and black and $20 on the zero. I would lose the $20 each hand but I get in return 0.72 points on my players card. So it works out to be $27.80 per point.
Now with 30 points I can get a 3N/4D cruise ( one free room) which would have cost me $1600 (for 2 person) through a travel agent. This works out to be equavalent to a Comp of $53.30 per point.
Looks like none gamblers should go for this casino deal instead of paying cash.

[shadroch]

Stateside,a three night cruise goes for about $300 per person.less if you shop around.

[Mr. T]

These are the figures here.
Whether it is stateside or here, there are specials not only for cash purchase but for casino comps also. I follow the cruising scene very closely in the US.
Just to side track I notice Ken is going on a BJ tournament cruise and is paying about $2000 for a triple share room for, if I remember correctly 4N/5D cruise.

[Kasi]

Originally Posted by Mr. T

In the casino ship where I frequent the Roulette game has 1 zero. So at times where I have to make up the points on my players card I would bet $350 on red and black and $20 on the zero. I would lose the $20 each hand but I get in return 0.72 points on my players card. So it works out to be $27.80 per point.
Now with 30 points I can get a 3N/4D cruise ( one free room) which would have cost me $1600 (for 2 person) through a travel agent. This works out to be equavalent to a Comp of $53.30 per point.
Looks like none gamblers should go for this casino deal instead of paying cash.

Here's another one I can't understand. Doesn't take much lol.
You bet simultaneously on red and black? You mean you play $20 for 42 hands that might cost $23 in losses and you get a cruise for $1600?

You mean u get a comp of $53 on a spin that has an expected value of 54 cents?

Obviously I'm missing something.

[Mr. T]

I assume you know the game of Roulette.
The American version has 2 zero. the Eurpoean version has 1 zero.
So in this European Roulette I would bet simultaneously $350 on red, $350 on black and $20 on the zero. If the red or black shows up then I would lose the $20 on the bet on zero. If the zero shows up then I lose nothing because I will be paid $700. It is equivalent to a free ride except I will still get my 0.72 points on my players card.
I will lose the $20 bet on zero if red or black shows up but I will get 0.72 points on my players card. This is equivalent to buying 1 point of Comp for $27.80.
I can use 30 points on my players card to pay for the 3N/4D cruise or I can buy the same cruise from a travel agent for $1600. That mean the 30 points would be equivalent to $1600 or 1 point of Comp is now equivalent to $53.30.
Do you think this is a good proposition?

[shadroch]

No.

You are losing $800 to get a cruise.Would you pay $800 to take the same cruise? You may disagree,but I don't see any great deal here. If you do,great.
Do you have a job? If so,will you lose pay by taking off for the cruise? How about the cost of getting to and from the cruise? Tips? It adds up pretty quickly.
Just because something has a brochure rate of $1600 does not mean its worth $1600.Have you tried a internet search to see what the cruise really goes for? I have a 5day/4 nite cruise booked for September. The brochure rate was $799 a person. I got it for $329 a person.

[Mr. T]

Originally Posted by shadroch

No.

You are losing $800 to get a cruise.Would you pay $800 to take the same cruise? You may disagree,but I don't see any great deal here. If you do,great.
Do you have a job? If so,will you lose pay by taking off for the cruise? How about the cost of getting to and from the cruise? Tips? It adds up pretty quickly.
Just because something has a brochure rate of $1600 does not mean its worth $1600.Have you tried a internet search to see what the cruise really goes for? I have a 5day/4 nite cruise booked for September. The brochure rate was $799 a person. I got it for $329 a person.

Hey Shadroch
What are you doing arguing with some people at 3 am in the morning where you are. Go get some sleep and I will reason with you in the morning.
I don't know what you mean "losing $800 to get a cruise." You can pay $800 for the cruise through the casino or $1600 through a travel agent.
As for the other stuff you are saying let us not get too weird about it.
Ken can confirm what he paid for his cruise.

[shadroch]

Print the name of the ship,and give me some random dates.
I'll get you some prices on what the cruise will cost a couple paying cash.
Fair enough? Perhaps it is a bargin but lets see.

[Kasi]

Originally Posted by Mr. T

I assume you know the game of Roulette.
The American version has 2 zero. the Eurpoean version has 1 zero.
So in this European Roulette I would bet simultaneously $350 on red, $350 on black and $20 on the zero. If the red or black shows up then I would lose the $20 on the bet on zero. If the zero shows up then I lose nothing because I will be paid $700. It is equivalent to a free ride except I will still get my 0.72 points on my players card.
I will lose the $20 bet on zero if red or black shows up but I will get 0.72 points on my players card. This is equivalent to buying 1 point of Comp for $27.80.
I can use 30 points on my players card to pay for the 3N/4D cruise or I can buy the same cruise from a travel agent for $1600. That mean the 30 points would be equivalent to $1600 or 1 point of Comp is now equivalent to $53.30.
Do you think this is a good proposition?

Now I get it! Thanks. Still seems weird in that u might as well save yourself an hour or 2 and just write them a check for the $833 or whatever.

All I can say is read the fine print to see what you're getting into. After all there's a wide range of prices for the good rooms versus the bad rooms. Maybe search around as to what the $833 can buy u without going thru a casino middleman like Shadroch suggests before u blow the money. Just a matter of consumer shopping!

[Mr. T]

Originally Posted by Kasi

Now I get it! Thanks. Still seems weird in that u might as well save yourself an hour or 2 and just write them a check for the $833 or whatever.

All I can say is read the fine print to see what you're getting into. After all there's a wide range of prices for the good rooms versus the bad rooms. Maybe search around as to what the $833 can buy u without going thru a casino middleman like Shadroch suggests before u blow the money. Just a matter of consumer shopping!

You cannot just write a check for $833 to the casino. You have to go through the process of chalking up the 30 points on your players card.

Shadroch,
I will give you the complete picture later as it would take me sometime to do it.